I would like to be a fly on the wall when Papa Becht walks into Campbell's office and closes the door. 
Campbell’s Offense
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If we are talking the same way next year at this time then I'll be ready to move on. This year isn't feeling too great though already I'm willing to watch for improvement. Amazing how poorly things have gone since 2020 when we were all scared to death CMC would leave.
Yeah, that was not a good play call. Those quick out plays were being covered, and that one need longer to 'develope'. It developed into an Iowa pick 6! And we didn't do enough to keep them guessing. Where were the deep balls, medium slants over the middle, RPO's, tight ends?
Do you really think that would happen?I would like to be a fly on the wall when Papa Becht walks into Campbell's office and closes the door.
Papa Becht is a football coach, so he know's the score on a parents involvement.
Plus, did you see Becht's sideline interview during the UNI game? He was very complimentary of Campbell and type of program he runs. He understands where Rocco is in his development.
“I do not think much of a man who is not wiser today than he was yesterday.”
― Abraham Lincoln
“All my problems bow before my stubbornness.”
― Amit Kalantri, Wealth of Words
I am not saying that I think poorly of either Campbell or Pollard, just that yes, both can be stubborn.
Five starters (including high profile starters) weren't bought into the culture in a program that preaches culture and building character. People just want to write this off as players being morons. I think there is more to it.
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I came to the forum today just to read about play calling. We are missing some NFL caliber players, QB, Tight End, RB, Receiver. How many dropped balls were there? Ughh! It is not play calling, but players and play making.
I personally don't really want to change coaches, as it is extremely disruptive, but if this season tanks, the writing is on the wall. P5 coaches very, very rarely recover from consecutive bad seasons this late in their tenure at a school.
If Matt Entz at NDSU finishes out strong this year, give him a look. He seems to be following right in Klieman's footsteps as far as success. If Entz does happen to win another championship this year, he will have 4 championships in 5 years, just like Klieman. Maybe he could follow Klieman's footsteps at the P5 level as well.
We can hope, and I hope the figurative lightning bolt hits Campbell, and he realizes that offenses are supposed to score points. But if not, and things go bad this year, I think it would be less risky to take a chance on a Matt Entz type than hope that Campbell will be able to turn things around. Campbell really needs to re-evaluate the whole offensive structure...play calling, scheme, why players don't improve, recruiting, etc.
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None that I can see. I hate to say that. I'll still be rooting for them, with a particular eye on the offense.
That is the unpleasant part also. I am losing hope that he will change or adapt.
It's both. The play calling is not allowing the players to 'be their best'.
The players is part of it. Not going to disagree there as receiver quality and depth is a problem. But to say play calling isnt a problem is woefully inaccurate. When you evaluate the design of our plays they simply don't measure up. Too many slow developing routes that, even if completed, attain minimal yard.
We take too long to get plays in which affects rhythm. We don't exploit the seems or throw enough quick balls over the middle. We don't do enough slants, even if they work. Most of our offense is slow developing and took much of it is to the outside.
Having guys drop passes doesn't help but I don't even think that's the biggest part of the problem.
For myself: if this season tanks I'll start to flinch and then if next year is bad I'll be ready to move on.
I'm trying to remember that there are legendary coaches that had bumpy times after a few years or every few years despite ressurrecting or starting something at their schools. Alvarez at UW and Snyder for KSU come to mind. Those two are exceptions in what they did, but they also had some rougher patches. UW had a losing season two years after their first Rose Bowl in the 90s.
Good take on Entz; imo those successful FCS guys are a good route; those teams tend to be real fundamentally sound and play within their strengths. I'd like someone who has run a program and not just a coordinator somewhere that was successful with elite athletes.
I've only seen Kohl play but Campbell is multiple time coach of the year. I suspect the "small ball" approach is from the offensive coordinator. Am I wrong?
Another question: Does ISU have the NIL cash to compete in the transfer portal era? If the website I looked at is accurate the cyclones had 12 players transfer out and only 3 transfer in.
I am so sick and tired of ALL the HATERS, cripes, there were at least 7 dropped balls that could have made the difference. The game was there to win and look at all of the young players out there on the field. So why don't you people who are hating just keep your opinions to yourselves
Look at the offensive talent we had a few years ago with the guys in the nfl and we finished 7-6. I haven’t ever said it before, but maybe Campbell IS the problem on offense.
Monday morning QB'ing, but where I'm at is that the failure right now is an offense in a complete rebuild that lost 4-5 starters on top of the normal attrition and has an OC in his first year. I'm not losing my mind about playcalling, or general strategy.
Expecting that rebuild to be complete, or anywhere near complete isn't reasonable after 1 game against UNI. Now they need to take the positives, Becht, Higgins, TE's(maybe), and build off that and show that they're actually building and improving instead of flat lining like last year.
Expecting that rebuild to be complete, or anywhere near complete isn't reasonable after 1 game against UNI. Now they need to take the positives, Becht, Higgins, TE's(maybe), and build off that and show that they're actually building and improving instead of flat lining like last year.
"Take what the defense will give you" is okay if they are selling out to stop you in one phase of the game. But it is NOT okay if that defense is really good at baiting you into throws. Like, idk, Phil Parker's defense. He is the king of that "sure the out route is open, you should totally make that throw".
Probably a third of the games they win are because of that.
I was expecting this thread. And my response is this:
What exactly should the offense look like (especially against Iowa)? What are our strengths that we're not taking advantage of?
We have decent tight ends - get them involved: check
Everything else is average or below average on offense. Iowa's defense is NOT giving up deep passing plays.
So throw the ball often: check
I get it, people wanted this game and are angry because it doesn't look flashy. But my question is still, what else would you have done differently given the situation?
QB run? no, we can't afford an injury at QB with pretty much only a true freshman behind him (thanks dekkers)
Play action pass? Ok, maybe, but you know Iowa's defense isn't going to bite much on that.
What exactly should the offense look like (especially against Iowa)? What are our strengths that we're not taking advantage of?
We have decent tight ends - get them involved: check
Everything else is average or below average on offense. Iowa's defense is NOT giving up deep passing plays.
So throw the ball often: check
I get it, people wanted this game and are angry because it doesn't look flashy. But my question is still, what else would you have done differently given the situation?
QB run? no, we can't afford an injury at QB with pretty much only a true freshman behind him (thanks dekkers)
Play action pass? Ok, maybe, but you know Iowa's defense isn't going to bite much on that.
