When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 58 7.1%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 143 17.4%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 184 22.4%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 428 52.1%

  • Total voters
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BryceC

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  • Scenario #2: This is information from the US Department of Energy website: "The advanced batteries in electric vehicles are designed for extended life but will wear out eventually. Several manufacturers of electric vehicles are offering 8-year/100,000-mile battery warranties. Predictive modeling (PDF) by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory indicates that today’s batteries may last 12 to 15 years in moderate climates (8 to 12 years in extreme climates). In addition to climate, other factors impacting battery life include driving and charging patterns, battery cell chemistry and design, and the vehicle-battery-environment thermal system." This scenario is a bit more alarming for EV's in the used vehicle market as 45percent of vehicles on the road today are over 14 years old (25percent over 20 years old). So in this scenario, any buyer of a used car over 10 years old is probably going to want the seller to replace the battery. Or the re-sale prices of older EV's will drop exponentially as they approach/exceed 10 years of age to account for the $10K+ cost of battery replacement.

This article is from 2014, probably looking at 10 years ago, and the technology is better now.

Might as well link stuff if you're going to post information from them.
 

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Roseville is where cousin ended up very early in the morning. With two Uber driver guys per his text.

Spent some time this morning looking over my 200 amp breaker box. It's full, 29 of 30 spaces. Bathroom remodels sort of ate up spaces with new code taking six new breakers for 2.5 baths. To add more circuits I guess I'll need to have a new 40 space box. 200 amp and 30 spaces seemed good to go in 2000 when addition was built and new box was installed but old house plus new mega addition didn't really lend itself to efficient use of circuits.
I've got a few quotes to add a 14-50 outlet in my cabin's garage and they were like $2-$3500. Not going to do it this year and give it a go with just the 120v this winter. With Tesla going live for me this upcoming spring, it shouldn't matter at all, because I can top off in Baxter which is 20 miles south of our cabin.
 

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1 had a 100amp subpanel installed in my garage that has one 60amp circuit for the Tesla and will be able to run another 60 amp circuit if we decide to add another in the future. Around $2,500. They said something about the wire from the subpanel to the Tesla charger having to use certain wire, which is expensive.
 

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I've got a few quotes to add a 14-50 outlet in my cabin's garage and they were like $2-$3500. Not going to do it this year and give it a go with just the 120v this winter. With Tesla going live for me this upcoming spring, it shouldn't matter at all, because I can top off in Baxter which is 20 miles south of our cabin.

If I had open breaker space I'd just do it myself (I was the "assistant" wiring jockey for wiring the house, working with licensed electrician who was father of friend of mine). Tuck under garage with box in utility room just on the other side of the garage wall so access couldn't be much easier unless the box was in the garage.
 

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So Tesla's were not an option?

A few reasons why your charging is so slow.

#1 You're using ChargePoint chargers that are 3.3-6.6kw, which will give you about 10-20 miles per hour. Level 2 usually get you double that speed. Not real fast but much better.

#2 Even if you were using Level 3 chargers, it would be a little bit slow because you're battery is already at 70%.

I think you're experience goes to show how important the charging network is. Range anxiety is real. I completely agree on the person taking a spot and not charging, complete jerk move. The last time I charged at a hotel, I went downstairs and moved my car once it was charged so someone else could plug in.
A nail under the tire would have provided the parking hog some Karma.
 

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If I had open breaker space I'd just do it myself (I was the "assistant" wiring jockey for wiring the house, working with licensed electrician who was father of friend of mine). Tuck under garage with box in utility room just on the other side of the garage wall so access couldn't be much easier unless the box was in the garage.
I ran a 60 amp into my garage for a heater years ago. Some of that thicker wire is tough to bend.
 

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Traveling this week (on east coast) and in terms of cars I'm seeing a lot of that we don't see in Iowa much is Polestar brand.
Still a lot of Teslas but definitely a fair amount of Polestar.
 
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I’m planning on limping my old Highlander along until this tech is in production. This is what a lot of people including myself are waiting for.
I'm still waiting to see when they'll stop using a 5 speed transmission in a 2023 $50k SUV. I have very little faith that Toyota is going to release something cutting edge when it comes to EV technology.
 
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Someone on another board I'm on said it best:

"As the world's largest automaker and producer of vehicles that utilize farm tractor engine technology,Toyota has been pushing anti-EV propaganda for years. They heavily influence all of the Japanese automakers. Their embarrassing hydrogen efforts and solid state claims have been nothing more than a red herring. If these were statements by Tesla or Rivian, we'd have seen at least two dozen inquiries from the SEC. For a company that made hybrid vehicles a ubiquitous sight in every corner of the world, Toyota has gone from hero to zero in a matter of only a couple years."
 
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Someone on another board I'm on said it best:

"As the world's largest automaker and producer of vehicles that utilize farm tractor engine technology,Toyota has been pushing anti-EV propaganda for years. They heavily influence all of the Japanese automakers. Their embarrassing hydrogen efforts and solid state claims have been nothing more than a red herring. If these were statements by Tesla or Rivian, we'd have seen at least two dozen inquiries from the SEC. For a company that made hybrid vehicles a ubiquitous sight in every corner of the world, Toyota has gone from hero to zero in a matter of only a couple years."

In other words, Toyota chooses to advertise and market their own lineup of vehicles versus their competitors.

Note I am not a Toyota fanboy by any means (never owned one, probably never will) but their claims and behavior is far from scandalous.
 

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I'm still waiting to see when they'll stop using a 5 speed transmission in a 2023 $50k SUV. I have very little faith that Toyota is going to release something cutting edge when it comes to EV technology.
My 2021 Highlander Hybrid has a CVT
 

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In other words, Toyota chooses to advertise and market their own lineup of vehicles versus their competitors.

Note I am not a Toyota fanboy by any means (never owned one, probably never will) but their claims and behavior is far from scandalous.
Sure...


FYI we have a Toyota, but it will be our last. :p
 
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