NOTEBOOK: On Jaylin Noel’s near TD on a kick return that was called back and more from ISU’s 28-21 loss to Kansas

[Didley]

I was most pissed off at the time about the “fumble” called at the end of the 1st half. Mostly because at the time i was hollering for pass interference or defensive holding. I couldn’t fathom how they ruled it a fumble. Which ive seen the replays now and confirmed what I saw at the time. Roccos arm got hit, not the ball. So if wasn’t a tipped pass. And the defender was clearly holding Dean. Sober me now realizes we kick the field goal either way there. So it doesn’t change the outcome at all. But holy **** was i pissed off at halftime.

 

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The true incompetence of that officiating crew was demonstrated by the incomplete pass being called a fumble and the review

To me, the most interesting call of the night was the Unnecessary Roughness on Moore because the defender was “clearly out of the play” as they were moving in the direction the ball carrier was. Officials teach you so many new rules when you watch Iowa State play. Here all these years I thought you had to be out of bounds to be out of the play but I clearly had no clue!

 

[madguy30]

You think atrocious officiating is unique to Iowa State? Bad calls occur every single game, even in the NFL. Iowa State still had great field position, yet couldn’t take advantage. A previous Iowa State team used a similar situation to say “screw you refs. We’re going to feed X the ball so he can get the touchdown he actually scored”. Last night’s Iowa State team played the “woe is me” card. Kansas won’t feel sorry for a call they know they were beneficiaries, just like Iowa State won’t feel sorry for the opposition when Iowa State is the beneficiary of a bad call.

Stop blaming officials. The officials didn’t lose the game. The poorly played first half was the reason they lost. The crowd was amped up. You can’t go 3 and out and let Kansas score a TD on their opening drive, even as they faced and converted a 4th and 8 (I think it was 8) on that drive.

Sadly that was about the one time that team really just put their hands in the dirt and did it.

The Steve Prohm Time Out after an ISU dunk version of offensive urgency is fascinating.

 

[Bigman38]

I thought that crew put in a pretty embarrassing performance before seeing that angle on the kick return.

The non catch was fine not getting in on the field, but there's no excuse for not reviewing it when even KU knew it was questionable. But the "fumble" that went 10 yards forward and hit the receiver in the hands was one the most unbelievable calls I've ever seen. Thankfully they didn't blow that one so bad that it wasn't reviewable like the others.

 

[CYDJ]

I agree. The Iowa call was correct, the ISU call was incorrect. Sure it was deflating. It was deflating when X was called for taunting, but ISU still got a touchdown on that drive

So that means we should /have to fight through every ****** up call and just take it? What kind of logic is that?

Yes, at the moment you concentrate on overcoming. We've all played enough sports to know that.

But, it does not disallow us, as fans, to suggest that it makes a difference. Because there is no reality where it doesn't, except in this "you must overcome your plight and accept having to do 120% to expect to win" crowd's world. You should not have to be perfect to expect to not get screwed.

 

[CYDJ]

Yeah, if we still had guys like Breece Hall and Brock Purdy. This offense was struggling last night so they needed all the field position it could get. 31 yards seemed like a huge deal at the time and it probably cost us a TD.

But gaining field position through a punt return is not officially part of the game for these officiating apologizing, need to be 20% better than the other team, you make any mistakes you don't deserve to win group.

The last time I looked great teams get down and make incredible plays once or twice and end up winning and we never say they didn't deserve it because they hadn't played well up to that point.

 

[Cyhig]

So that means we should /have to fight through every ****** up call and just take it? What kind of logic is that?

Yes, at the moment you concentrate on overcoming. We've all played enough sports to know that.

But, it does not disallow us, as fans, to suggest that it makes a difference. Because there is no reality where it doesn't, except in this "you must overcome your plight and accept having to do 120% to expect to win" crowd's world. You should not have to be perfect to expect to not get screwed.

Yes. That’s what great teams do. I bet you there is a questionable call that goes against every team in every game. Some are worse than others, some may be more impactful than others. But great teams don’t let the call determine the outcome. They take matters in their own hands

How many plays were there last night? Not including special teams, I count 114. Of those plays, how many had questionable cals against ISU? Probably 5 -7. Which means the officials didn’t negatively affect Iowa State for 107-109 plays last night.

Here are two plays of why Iowa State lost: they gave up a 4th down conversion on the opening drive which lead to a touchdown. They threw a pick 6. There is 14 points that ISU gave up which the officials had nothing to do about.

 

[Die4Cy]

Really annoying when ISU fans get on here and say that you just have to be better than all these atrocious referee mistakes. Our players are doing their job, the refs need to do theirs.

I can't relate to people like that.

 

[SayMyName]

Really annoying when ISU fans get on here and say that you just have to be better than all these atrocious referee mistakes. Our players are doing their job, the refs need to do theirs.

I can't relate to people like that.

Same - just gives me all the evidence I need to add to my Ignore list

 

[Cyhig]

Really annoying when ISU fans get on here and say that you just have to be better than all these atrocious referee mistakes. Our players are doing their job, the refs need to do theirs.

I can't relate to people like that.

Really annoying when ISU fans blame officials for the outcome of games. We’re better than that. We’re not Iowa fans

 

[BCClone]

At that point in the game I'm not confident in ISU punching it in even from the 3.

But that was a terrible call. Let it play out and review it if there's any question since he was close to the sideline. If it's determined somehow that he stepped out barley, so be it.

No guarantee that we punch it in, but we most likely have a FG at least. Now it’s 14-6 going in at half at minimum.

 

[madguy30]

No guarantee that we punch it in, but we most likely have a FG at least. Now it’s 14-6 going in at half at minimum.

Yep there is that. How the turn tables with the field goal unit being reliable.

 

[BCClone]

Yes. That’s what great teams do. I bet you there is a questionable call that goes against every team in every game. Some are worse than others, some may be more impactful than others. But great teams don’t let the call determine the outcome. They take matters in their own hands

How many plays were there last night? Not including special teams, I count 114. Of those plays, how many had questionable cals against ISU? Probably 5 -7. Which means the officials didn’t negatively affect Iowa State for 107-109 plays last night.

Here are two plays of why Iowa State lost: they gave up a 4th down conversion on the opening drive which lead to a touchdown. They threw a pick 6. There is 14 points that ISU gave up which the officials had nothing to do about.

There were at least 5-7 run plays where the left side of their line left early to pull. 5-7 might be low. They were moving early any time the run play wasn’t to the left. Sometimes the call isn’t made so you just can’t go by the amount of penalties.

 

[ImJustKCClone]

About all they could do is apologize. It was bad call and i was a raving lunatic yelling about it at the game, even without seeing that replay or knowing that the ref was standing a few feet from the play when he made the call. But he shouldn’t be fired. Thats a bit much. It was a huge moment in a big game that could have swung things our way, but we cant say it cost us the game or not. It just sucks.

Fired? Probably not. But there SHOULD be consequences for him, and for other refs with happy whistles that change momentum or scores.
Another letter for the wall...

 

[BCClone]

Throw in the sideline warning. Probably a legit call but I saw the KU coach be in the face of a red while the play was going on where the ref was getting a blocked view. Saw it several times. No warning there though.

 

[Cyhig]

Same - just gives me all the evidence I need to add to my Ignore list

Did the refs make Rocco throw a pick 6? Did the refs make 2 safeties on the same side of the field bite on a RPO which led to a 80 yd touchdown? ISU also has a chance to get off the field on a 4th down attempt on the opening drive. They didn’t

3 plays: 21 points. That’s why they lost

 

[Tailg8er]

Really annoying when ISU fans blame officials for the outcome of games. We’re better than that. We’re not Iowa fans

Who has said we lost because of them? People are pissed and saying they affected the game, which is unequivocally true.

Also, try to understand the difference between being pissed about an INCORRECT call and a CORRECT one (ISU call vs the Iowa call). Get bent, we don't need your lecture.

 

[Cyhig]

Who has said we lost because of them? People are pissed and saying they affected the game, which is unequivocally true.

Also, try to understand the difference between being pissed about an INCORRECT call and a CORRECT one (ISU call vs the Iowa call). Get bent, we don't need your lecture.

Ok. Feel free to whine and complain I guess…… such a bad look for a fan base though

 

[Cy Guy69]

That crew had an awful first half. Of course this takes the cake, but they wouldn’t call holding on KU and let their secondary play very physical.

 

[Tailg8er]

Ok. Feel free to whine and complain I guess…… such a bad look for a fan base though

A bad look for a fanbase to be pissed about a big blown call and complain on.. checks notes.. CYCLONE Fanatic..?

Ok bro