NOTEBOOK: On Jaylin Noel’s near TD on a kick return that was called back and more from ISU’s 28-21 loss to Kansas

Cyhig

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Wrong, he earned the right to be down at the 1 and it was inexplicably taken away from him. At the very least we get 3 there and it's likely we get a TD.

How is that play any less important than the other scoring plays?
Who said ISU would had scored a TD? You don’t know for sure. What I do know is ISU had two miscues that the refs had no part of that DIRECTLY LED TO 14 POINTS FOR KANSAS. Iowa state lost by 7. Do the math
 

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That's fair.

The players' job is to go out and play the game for 60 minutes to the best of their ability within the rules.

What's the job the officials are paid to do? And then consider they are literally provided tens of thousands of dollars worth of electronic digital video equipment to aid them in it. It's ok to point it out when they do these things that poorly.

And two of the personal fouls last night were not this. Imo that is something that comes from the top.

You play to the whistle, and play hard, but you don't do anything that jeopardizes the team.
 

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Who said ISU would had scored a TD? You don’t know for sure. What I do know is ISU had two miscues that the refs had no part of that DIRECTLY LED TO 14 POINTS FOR KANSAS. Iowa state lost by 7. Do the math
I'm pretty sure in close games a few plays here and there determine outcomes. You can't just blame it on a couple plays Kansas made then turn around and discount the play we made.
 

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I'm pretty sure in close games a few plays here and there determine outcomes. You can't just blame it on a couple plays Kansas made then turn around and discount the play we made.
You can’t blame the loss of the officals. ISU could had simply driven the ball 31 yards to make the horrid call a non issue. Just like ISU did when X was called for taunting.

ISU lost because of their mistakes, not because of officiating. So feel free to complain about this bad call, because it was a bad call. But don’t use it as an excuse to why they lost

Edit: I would think a 50 yard INT return for a TD and a 80 yd TD allowed aren’t simply a “few plays here and there”. That’s 14 direct points!!!
 

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That is a horrible call at a HIGH SCHOOL game. Should never happen in a prime time college game with cameras everywhere.
 
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You think atrocious officiating is unique to Iowa State? Bad calls occur every single game, even in the NFL. Iowa State still had great field position, yet couldn’t take advantage. A previous Iowa State team used a similar situation to say “screw you refs. We’re going to feed X the ball so he can get the touchdown he actually scored”. Last night’s Iowa State team played the “woe is me” card. Kansas won’t feel sorry for a call they know they were beneficiaries, just like Iowa State won’t feel sorry for the opposition when Iowa State is the beneficiary of a bad call.

Stop blaming officials. The officials didn’t lose the game. The poorly played first half was the reason they lost. The crowd was amped up. You can’t go 3 and out and let Kansas score a TD on their opening drive, even as they faced and converted a 4th and 8 (I think it was 8) on that drive.

If you think calls on the field as atrocious and bizarre as a qb fumbling 10 yards through the air directly at the hands of the receiver he’s staring at happen every single game…you’re just delusional and employing coping mechanisms.

It was an off the charts bad call that completely breaks the existence of the sport if it were correct and a clear sign of the kind of incompetence or indifference of the crew.
 

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If you think calls on the field as atrocious and bizarre as a qb fumbling 10 yards through the air directly at the hands of the receiver he’s staring at happen every single game…you’re just delusional and employing coping mechanisms.

It was an off the charts bad call that completely breaks the existence of the sport if it were correct and a clear sign of the kind of incompetence or indifference of the crew.
Yes, it was a bad call. I haven’t said anything different. My point is they didn’t lose the game because of officiating.
 

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You can’t blame the loss of the officals. ISU could had simply driven the ball 31 yards to make the horrid call a non issue. Just like ISU did when X was called for taunting.

ISU lost because of their mistakes, not because of officiating. So feel free to complain about this bad call, because it was a bad call. But don’t use it as an excuse to why they lost

Edit: I would think a 50 yard INT return for a TD and a 80 yd TD allowed aren’t simply a “few plays here and there”. That’s 14 direct points!!!
ISU lost not just because of their mistakes. They lost because of their mistakes, and because of the refs. That 80 yd TD situation probably doesn’t even exist if we score after Noel return if it was called properly.
 

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ISU lost not just because of their mistakes. They lost because of their mistakes, and because of the refs. That 80 yd TD situation probably doesn’t even exist if we score after Noel return.
Stop blaming officials. They gave up the 80 yd TD; they gave up a pick 6. They allowed a crucial fourth down conversion on the opening drive which resulted in a TD.

The refs didn’t cause these mistakes.
 

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Yes. That’s what great teams do. I bet you there is a questionable call that goes against every team in every game. Some are worse than others, some may be more impactful than others. But great teams don’t let the call determine the outcome. They take matters in their own hands

How many plays were there last night? Not including special teams, I count 114. Of those plays, how many had questionable cals against ISU? Probably 5 -7. Which means the officials didn’t negatively affect Iowa State for 107-109 plays last night.

Here are two plays of why Iowa State lost: they gave up a 4th down conversion on the opening drive which lead to a touchdown. They threw a pick 6. There is 14 points that ISU gave up which the officials had nothing to do about.

Do you know what “mutually exclusive means”? You need to learn it.

These things are not mutually exclusive at all.
 

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Stop blaming officials. They gave up the 80 yd TD; they gave up a pick 6. They allowed a crucial fourth down conversion on the opening drive which resulted in a TD.

The refs didn’t cause these mistakes.
Did KU have to overcome any ref mistakes in order to win?
 

Cyhig

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Do you know what “mutually exclusive means”? You need to learn it.

These things are not mutually exclusive at all.
No - I understand. The refs made a mistake on this play. Ok. Let’s all whine and complain. It’s not why they lost, but we can all complain about it.
 

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Who said ISU would had scored a TD? You don’t know for sure. What I do know is ISU had two miscues that the refs had no part of that DIRECTLY LED TO 14 POINTS FOR KANSAS. Iowa state lost by 7. Do the math


Dude. They would've had the ball at the 3. Let's be honest. They would've scored a TD. Agree about ISU's miscues. And the clock management. Those were bad. But that call took away 7 pts and ISU lost by 7. I can see why fans are pissed.
 
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What ref mistakes did KU overcome?

Already made it clear that ISU lost because of bad offense AND bad ref mistakes.
All that I need to know about your view is insinuating the 80 yd touchdown allowed wouldn’t have happened if the officials made the proper call on this play.

That is 100% laughable
 
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Stop blaming officials. They gave up the 80 yd TD; they gave up a pick 6. They allowed a crucial fourth down conversion on the opening drive which resulted in a TD.

The refs didn’t cause these mistakes.
Yeah! And in the jansas bball game, the blarge call against niang was only one play! If they made 1 more stop we would have won!!

I don't understand people's refusal ro admit officials bad calls can make a difference in a game.
 

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Dude. They would've had the ball at the 3. Let's be honest. They would've scored a TD. Agree about ISU's miscues. And the clock management. Those were bad. But that call took away 7 pts and ISU lost by 7. I can see why fans are pissed.
Dude! They still had the ball on the 31 yard line. They could had easily scored a touchdown, but didn’t. Just like they scored a TD after the taunting call

They lost because of the 80 TD touchdown and the pick 6
 
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Dude! They still had the ball on the 31 yard line. They could had easily scored a touchdown, but didn’t. Just like they scored a TD after the taunting call

They lost because of the 80 TD touchdown and the pick 6
Do you really think the game ia the same if the score is 14-10 at half instead of 14-3? I don't know what to tell you then ...
 
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