NOTEBOOK: On Jaylin Noel’s near TD on a kick return that was called back and more from ISU’s 28-21 loss to Kansas

cyclonestunners

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Awesome. Maybe people can actually understand the officials weren’t the main cause for the loss.
Ok explain how taking away 7 points and slowing the game down every penalty for a long discussion, even on basic holding calls, didn't effect the game?
 

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Oh God yet another thread of extreme picking to one side.

Like almost everything in life, both things are true.

A) Getting the ball at your opponent’s 30 yard line and not getting any points is completely unacceptable.

B) That terrible call by the officials blowing that dead when it wasn’t even close is also completely unacceptable in today’s game when you can always go back and review a play. You let it go unless it was so obvious he was out. And having the ball at the 1 or 2 yard line as opposed to the 30 is a massive difference.

We should be able to overcome that call BUT that doesn’t excuse that we shouldn’t have had to overcome that call on that drive.
 

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And the officals didn’t play as large of role in the loss as people here want to think it did

Looking at probabilities this one blown call in the original post most likely took away about 5 points from ISU in a 7 point game. That’s giving benefit of the doubt the rest of the game was well officiated.

That’s why no rational people are agreeing with you that officiating had no significant impact…and the video of how bad the call is. 5ish points in a 7 point game is worth acknowledging among adults.
 
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This is not a judgement call, this is the official seeing something that did not happen. There’s a difference, and this official needs to face repercussions from the Big 12 offices for this.
The official was standing right there. How does he see something that didn't happen. We know the athletes sometimes bet on games. How about the officials?

That was no mistake. Nobody's that stupid.
 

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Ku ran a lot of pick plays and got away with all of them. You do it until they call it.

They held a lot in first half but we weren’t getting enough pressure to even force the calls. They got called for it in second half because our defense got more aggressive and they had some obvious holds right next to the qb.

This stuff is all interconnected, it’s so silly how a few weirdos have to compartmentalize it. For most of us talking about what we saw helps to vent but for a few it helps to construct an alternative world where it didn’t happen or didn’t matter.
 
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As much as I was yelling, if you really do the slow mo it does appear he just barely stepped out.

Either way the refs I believe the refs are supposed to let it play out and then review if something is questionable.

I'm not on board with this being the difference. ISU was bad and the 80 yard late TD is an example of how KU would have found other ways to burn the defense.

But the refs didn't follow protocol and that deserves criticism.
 
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Ref should be fired. Terrible call and blowing whistle to insure ISU did not score was premeditated. Refs had word in high that lifting KU up is good for marketing and tv coverage. Yorkie has his faves to build B12 - ISU is not on the list. You can call me crazy but so what. Your opinion don’t matter either!
 

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Everyone was so confused after that play. No excuse for blowing it dead there, have to let that play out and review to see whether he stepped out. Bad mistake by the official.
At least, that makes sense. Blow it dead, and it is dead. So, it's more like inept officials instead of corrupt officials. Semantics, but at least, it makes sense.

FWIW, even with the inept officials, ISU had a terrible game plan and executed it poorly. They laid an ass egg last night. They did not coach or play well enough to win.

Besides that, I still had a great time in Ames visiting with some old friends at their Tailgate before the game. It just blows me away how much better the ISU football experience is now compared to when I was in shcool last century.

Let's Go State!
 

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I'm not sure anyone is saying that play was why we lost or that we didn't screw up enough otherwise. It was a big play that was negated when we were short on big plays.

Repeatedly calling out fans for being frustrated about a play that was executed well seems like a weird hill to die on. I kinda thought this is the ideal forum for something like this.

Did Kansas have to overcome anything similar last night? I don't recall them having a huge gain or touchdown called back due to a bad call. I think we can be frustrated with how we responded as well as wondering why we have to execute twice in order to have success.
Forget it. Cyhig is too mature to understand that two things can be true at once.
 
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There is some merit to it though. Iowa had a punt return called back. They still only had to go 20-25 yards in a minute with one timeout to kick a game winning field goal. They didn’t execute.

Iowa State still got the ball in great field position. They easily could had scored, especially against the Kansas defense. They didn’t execute.

Remember the taunting penalty a couple years ago? Do you remember what happened in that same drive? X still got a touchdown. They executed

Was this play by Noel a bad call? Absolutely. There were quite a few bad calls, some for each team (although ISU seemed to get more bad calls than Kansas). But great teams fight through bad calls
Yeah. This should have been a situation where we get the TD anyway like in the Okie St game with X that you mentioned. I remember how that really fired up the team from there on out and we won that game despite that terrible call.

The guys last night played tight from the start, and when things didn't go our way they got even more rattled.

But we're young and that happens with young teams. I hate we lost a winnable game last night but there's still a lot to play for the last three games here.
 

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You can’t blame the loss of the officals. ISU could had simply driven the ball 31 yards to make the horrid call a non issue. Just like ISU did when X was called for taunting.

ISU lost because of their mistakes, not because of officiating. So feel free to complain about this bad call, because it was a bad call. But don’t use it as an excuse to why they lost

Edit: I would think a 50 yard INT return for a TD and a 80 yd TD allowed aren’t simply a “few plays here and there”. That’s 14 direct points!!!
Where did I say we lost because of the call? Nobody knows what would have happened the rest of the game but it's obvious they took away 30 yards from Noel.
 
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And the officals didn’t play as large of role in the loss as people here want to think it did
Yes, you are correct. They only erased 7 likely points for ISU and the game was lost by...... looks in the paper, well looky here, 7 points.

I can play that game too. Like I've said before, we did not play perfectly, but that does not disallow a team from having the chance to win a game. If so, we'd have 30% tied games every week.

Be the big tough, "be better" guy if you'd like. That's for the players and coaches. The rest of us can complain about the obviously horrendous calls on the field all we want. That is pretty much all we can do other than donate.
 
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