***2023-24 College Football Thread***

[mywayorcyway]

Yes, its settled.

Excellent. I'm excited for next year already.

 

[stewart092284]

TCU’s best teams have had some of the best defenses in modern college football.

The large amount of Big 12 qbs succeeding in nfl from just 10 teams is kind of proof of the whole thing.

Well, I don't disagree but I wouldn't use that argument because the SEC has the Big 12 beat there.

Although it is interesting that essentially the Big 12 and SEC dominate.

Big 12 (Mahomes, Hurts, Murray, Mayfield, Smith, Purdy)
SEC ( Levis, Jones, Tua, Stafford, Dobbs, Young, Dak, )

Burrow obviously would count but is also a Big 10 recruit.
Fields would count as an SEC recruit but played more at Ohio State.

 

[HFCS]

Same here. I wanted Georgia, Michigan, Washington and Florida State to all win this weekend. Four undefeated teams to send the four-team playoff out on.

That’s my first choice but if there is chaos the big 12 will again be shat on if Texas isn’t in…mixed feelings in that.

 

[CY88CE11]

Gundy is the absolute master of that ******** substitution rule.

 

[SolterraCyclone]

Well that’s a leap. No what I’m saying is that their star QB the person who lead them to win those games is gone, his backup is t nearly as good so they aren’t the same team without him. I wouldn’t put FSU in, they are going to get obliterated

That didn’t stop them from putting OSU in when Cardale Jones took over back in the early teens

 

[AlaCyclone]

We will see if Texas lets OSU come back in the second half like they have done with most all year. But woof OSU looks terrible. OSU has no defense, and is playing Texas as bad or worse than everyone this year.

Texas is going to run this up as much as possible. As much as I hate Texas them getting into the Playoff, just moves our Bowl draw up.

Texas being in the Playoff will not change the other Big Xii Bowls unless Oklahoma is chosen as a NY6 at-large which is highly unlikely, as they trail too many other at-large teams (Oregon, Mizzou, Penn State and Ole Miss) . Since the Sugar is a semi-final this year, the Big Xii does not automatically get a filler team. Only the Champion is guaranteed a NY6 slot this year, and that will be Texas in either the Rose or Sugar (if they make the CFP) or the Cotton, Fiesta or Peach (if they do not make the CFP).

 

[cytor]

What a d**k.

The SEC should only get 1 team in regardless.... they only play an 8 game conference schedule. That alone should disqualify them from getting 2 teams in.

 

[HFCS]

Well, I don't disagree but I wouldn't use that argument because the SEC has the Big 12 beat there.

Although it is interesting that essentially the Big 12 and SEC dominate.

Big 12 (Mahomes, Hurts, Murray, Mayfield, Smith, Purdy)
SEC ( Levis, Jones, Tua, Stafford, Dobbs, Young, Dak, )

Burrow obviously would count but is also a Big 10 recruit.
Fields would count as an SEC recruit but played more at Ohio State.

I doubt SEC has more qbs per capita. They need 40% more to even tie big 12 for qbs. 4 extra teams is a lot.

Hurts has to be thrown out because he’s both.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Well, I don't disagree but I wouldn't use that argument because the SEC has the Big 12 beat there.

Although it is interesting that essentially the Big 12 and SEC dominate.

Big 12 (Mahomes, Hurts, Murray, Mayfield, Smith, Purdy)
SEC ( Levis, Jones, Tua, Stafford, Dobbs, Young, Dak, )

Burrow obviously would count but is also a Big 10 recruit.
Fields would count as an SEC recruit but played more at Ohio State.

Hurts counts as both SEC/Big12 probably.

 

[stewart092284]

I doubt SEC has more qbs per capita. They need 40% more to even tie big 12 for qbs. 4 extra teams is a lot.

Hurts has to be thrown out because he’s both.

Then Murray does as well. He played as a freshman at Texas A&M in the SEC

 

[HFCS]

Surprised @FriendlySpartan sees big ten west teams being great next year. How are 6 of them going to get better and Iowa maintain while having a dramatic sos increase? They will be punching bags most likely.

 

[jctisu]

That’s my first choice but if there is chaos the big 12 will again be shat on if Texas isn’t in…mixed feelings in that.

I just don’t want Texas in the CFP. Their media and fans have been absolutely nauseating with this SEC move. They are victim blaming the entire way through. Like you mean the league and 8 teams you almost ended in P5 football don’t like you? Weird.

That’s like USC, UCLA, Oregon or Washington fans being salty toward Oregon State and Washington State fans being mad for demolishing their entire athletic department and future going forward.

 

[HFCS]

Then Murray does as well. He played as a freshman at Texas A&M in the SEC

No matter how you slice it I’d be shocked if the sec has 40% more qbs in nfl right now that actually play. Per school it seems pretty obvious big 12 has created best nfl qbs.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Surprised @FriendlySpartan sees big ten west teams being great next year. How are 6 of them going to get better and Iowa maintain while having a dramatic sos increase? They will be punching bags most likely.

Oh no they are going to be trash, I was disagreeing with your comment about the bottom/Middle SEC rising up to something great.

 

[stewart092284]

Surprised @FriendlySpartan sees big ten west teams being great next year. How are 6 of them going to get better and Iowa maintain while having a dramatic sos increase? They will be punching bags most likely.

I don't know about 6 of them getting better but I can very easily see this

1) Iowa will still win 8 games. They aren't going to play Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Washington and Oregon all every season.

2) Wisconsin I imagine will be much improved.

3) Nebraska will be better because, allow me to introduce Matt Rhule. The man is a helluva college football coach.



The others.... well, IDK

 

[SolterraCyclone]

FSU isn’t OSU and sadly that matters. Again they aren’t the same team, March Madness changes seeding based on injuries too, the committee decides to put “the four best teams in” in FSU’s case they aren’t a top team without their QB and that’s just a fact. I’m not saying I agree with it, I’m just saying it’s a possibility

That though process shouldn’t come into play at all (FSU isn’t OSU). I’m sure FSU fans would beg to differ on that. That’s that BS eyeball test argument.

If FSU wins today they will have beaten every opponent they played without their starting QB. Maybe you knock them down from 3 to 4, but there should and will be riots if they leave an undefeated FSU out

 

[HFCS]

I just don’t want Texas in the CFP. Their media and fans have been absolutely nauseating with this SEC move. They are victim blaming the entire way through. Like you mean the league and 8 teams you almost ended in P5 football don’t like you? Weird.

That’s like USC, UCLA, Oregon or Washington fans being salty toward Oregon State and Washington State fans being mad for demolishing their entire athletic department and future going forward.

I mostly agree but if we get shafted with Texas what hope do we have without them? None. I guess hope for the one auto bid but accept the b10 committee will always seed b12 low, does big 12 champ at least get a bye or not have to play a road game?

 

[Inthesystem]

The four-team playoff system was created to try and make sure that the top team in the country would get in. That’s all. There was a feeling that the BCS championship game didn’t always do that.

 

[AlaCyclone]

Well, I don't disagree but I wouldn't use that argument because the SEC has the Big 12 beat there.

Although it is interesting that essentially the Big 12 and SEC dominate.

Big 12 (Mahomes, Hurts, Murray, Mayfield, Smith, Purdy)
SEC ( Levis, Jones, Tua, Stafford, Dobbs, Young, Dak, )

Burrow obviously would count but is also a Big 10 recruit.
Fields would count as an SEC recruit but played more at Ohio State.

FWIW: Jalen Hurts started for TWO years at Alabama (2016 and 2017), won an SEC Championship as a starter in 2016, led the Tide to back to back National Championship Games in 2016 (after winning the Peach Bowl over Washington) and 2017 (after winning the Sugar Bowl over Clemson) and came off the bench to lead the Tide to the 2018 SEC Championship after Tua was hurt in the game with the Tide trailing. More importantly, he graduated from Alabama before moving to OU for one last season. So, at a minimum, he should probably be listed in the Burrow / Fields category instead of a straight Big Xii QB where he played for one season.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

That though process shouldn’t come into play at all (FSU isn’t OSU). I’m sure FSU fans would beg to differ on that. That’s that BS eyeball test argument.

If FSU wins today they will have beaten every opponent they played without their starting QB. Maybe you knock them down from 3 to 4, but there should and will be riots if they leave an undefeated FSU out

They played a G5 and a horrible team without their QB.

For the record I have zero problem if they get in and hope the smash Louisville tonight with a freshman. However if it’s close there will be a conversation and if they lose they are obv out.

I just don’t see them leaving out Texas with this game going the way it is.