Rocco's NIL value

[SolterraCyclone]

5 stars at directional schools?

He was a late bloomer but JJ Watt when to a directional school, then got really good, so he transferred.

Transferring was a PIA back then and that's likely a large source of the 'loyalty'.

I don't know why people keep thinking there was a time when college athletics had some sort of purity to it.

Make a sports team>people watch>people pay to watch>find more ways for more people to pay to watch>profit.

Absolutely. This happened occasionally (like JJ Watt or Russell Wilson or Wesley Johnson). Now have to worry about EVERY player EVERY year.

There are way more examples of great players just playing out there eligibility at smaller schools rather than transferring to bigger schools before the immediate transfer rule change

 

[madguy30]

Absolutely. This happened occasionally (like JJ Watt or Russell Wilson or Wesley Johnson). Now have to worry about EVERY player EVERY year.

There are way more examples of great players just playing out there eligibility at smaller schools rather than transferring to bigger schools before the immediate transfer rule change

And every school has to worry about it which is why I think changes will be made eventually.

 

[clonedude]

I still think a question that remains is... will someone go sit on the bench at Alabama for 4 years to make more money than they could starting at a school like ISU??

I guess if you feel like you'll never be in the NFL... then sure... go sit on the bench at Alabama and take your money. But if your goal is to want to be in the NFL... then no doubt it's better to go start at ISU IMO.

The Alabama's of the world can still only offer 22 starting jobs on their team. If you aren't one of those 22, would you rather go start at ISU for less money? I think a lot would.

 

[ISUTex]

NIL was supposed to be a few bucks off the sale of a kid's jersey so they would have some money in their pocket, few opposed that idea. Now it has morphed into pay for play. The Athletic had an article this week with kids telling how much they are getting, many were getting 100K to 300K a year. The QB from Tenn. got 8 million to sign with the Vols, Manning making twice what Purdy is this season.
What was once was under the table is now out for all to see, and it's not pretty, how long before the SEC and B10 realize that they are going to better off using that $80 to 100 million a year from TV money to set up a fund to pay the players?

The NFL has a salary cap, pay scale for rookies and first year players, while college football is the Old West.

This is why people who opposed NIL opposed NIL.

 

[ISUTex]

I really thought that when this kind of thing started happening that we would eventually see some sort of legal action based on Title IX. When the athletic departments are explicitly telling donors to not donate to the AD (where that money is subject to Title IX) and to donate to collectives (not subject to Title IX) there would be a pretty easy case that this is transparent way for ADs to funnel money disproportionately to FB and MBB.

Most of the money that ADs are redirecting to collectives is not going for NIL, but simply pay to play for male athletes, most of whom are getting more than they could on a true NIL basis. I think Blum mentioned that a P5 starter quality OL is like $600k. A typical, random Big 12 starting OL isn't getting $600k for endorsement deals. So you have a male athlete that has very little true "NIL" value getting a huge chunk of money that the AD has essentially declined to accept and spread to women's sports.

This seems like it's still ripe for a big class action suit on behalf of female athletes on the basis that ADs are diverting money to work around Title IX.

Why don't the women's sports fans set up their own collectives for women's teams so they don't have to leech off of football and men's basketball more than they already do?

 

[trajanJ]

I’ve been told that some of these NIL figures have been greatly exaggerated.

 

[Mr.G.Spot]

Remember the days when you would watch a game against some random directional school like SW Idaho St or some **** like that and they were halfway decent because they had some really good senior 5-star player? I always admired those guys and their dedication to their school.

Well, thanks to NIL those days are over. The big conferences and richest programs will start amassing all the best talent (even more than before).

I disagree. Call it the "Purdy Effect." All of college football, especially at QB, now realizes u need reps to get better. No longer will 4-5 star qb's stay at a school to try to play their 4th or 5th year as has happened forever.

Look at Texas and Ihio State. One loses a starter to Sryacuse and the other loses their second team 5-star recruit to Duke. Offensive lineman need reps to get better etc. for all other positions. Other than maybe 1-4 teams a year, I think the teams from 5-35 will exhibit mare parity than ever.

 

[SwirlyBird]

I’ve been told that some of these NIL figures have been greatly exaggerated.

Don't trust the insiders, trust trajanJ

 

[jsb]

I still think a question that remains is... will someone go sit on the bench at Alabama for 4 years to make more money than they could starting at a school like ISU??

I guess if you feel like you'll never be in the NFL... then sure... go sit on the bench at Alabama and take your money. But if your goal is to want to be in the NFL... then no doubt it's better to go start at ISU IMO.

The Alabama's of the world can still only offer 22 starting jobs on their team. If you aren't one of those 22, would you rather go start at ISU for less money? I think a lot would.

The issue is that every player is different. Someone might love to go sit on the bench making good money at Alabama. Someone else might not.

 

[Marcelason78]

I’ve been told that some of these NIL figures have been greatly exaggerated.

This is the part of NIL that makes it seem shady. How is the rank and file being asked to donate really knowing where their money is going? I don’t have worries about the job BB will do with this, but there seems to be a lot of non-transparent moving targets.

 

[Yellow Snow]

5 stars at directional schools?

He was a late bloomer but JJ Watt when to a directional school, then got really good, so he transferred.

Transferring was a PIA back then and that's likely a large source of the 'loyalty'.

I don't know why people keep thinking there was a time when college athletics had some sort of purity to it.

Make a sports team>people watch>people pay to watch>find more ways for more people to pay to watch>profit.

I think you hit on a very good point.

Losing a year to transfer likely was a HUGE source of "loyalty". Heck, UNI had two OL dudes drafted. Do you think in todays environment they would have finished their careers at UNI? I don't.

There have been MANY players from opposing teams from smaller conferences Iowa State played that could have started for us EASILY. Shaky Smithson?

This goes for basketball too. The COMBINATION of NIL and free roam transfer at the same time is a disaster. One or the other individually is fine. But at the same time... lol wow.

 

[CRcyclone6]

I think you hit on a very good point.

Losing a year to transfer likely was a HUGE source of "loyalty". Heck, UNI had two OL dudes drafted. Do you think in todays environment they would have finished their careers at UNI? I don't.

There have been MANY players from opposing teams from smaller conferences Iowa State played that could have started for us EASILY. Shaky Smithson?

This goes for basketball too. The COMBINATION of NIL and free roam transfer at the same time is a disaster. One or the other individually is fine. But at the same time... lol wow.

The free roam transfer needs to go away. Wasn't that a COVID thing originally? That's four years ago. Enough already. AND Bowman getting a 7th yr is ridiculous.

 

[cyclone1209]

I still think a question that remains is... will someone go sit on the bench at Alabama for 4 years to make more money than they could starting at a school like ISU??

I guess if you feel like you'll never be in the NFL... then sure... go sit on the bench at Alabama and take your money. But if your goal is to want to be in the NFL... then no doubt it's better to go start at ISU IMO.

The Alabama's of the world can still only offer 22 starting jobs on their team. If you aren't one of those 22, would you rather go start at ISU for less money? I think a lot would.

This - sometimes the best NIL deal is playing time. Smart athletes will know this.

 

[mynameisjonas]

Do you remember why Brock got put in that Oklahoma State game?

Because Zeb couldn’t hit the broad side of a barn?

 

[KidSilverhair]

I don't drink enough Ames Lager to support a million dollar QB. Good thing the rest of you have deep pockets.

And hollow wooden legs, apparently, to store all that lager

 

[KidSilverhair]

Who cares if he's as good as Purdy or has NFL potential yet. He was the freshman offensive player of the year in the conference and is either at or near the top of freshman quarterbacks nationally. I'm not going to put any limits on him yet, but at worst his floor seems to be really good college quarterback. Are you drunk or something?

Plus that long ball to Ngoyi in the bowl game was dropped like a dime.

 

[KnappShack]

I still think a question that remains is... will someone go sit on the bench at Alabama for 4 years to make more money than they could starting at a school like ISU??

I guess if you feel like you'll never be in the NFL... then sure... go sit on the bench at Alabama and take your money. But if your goal is to want to be in the NFL... then no doubt it's better to go start at ISU IMO.

The Alabama's of the world can still only offer 22 starting jobs on their team. If you aren't one of those 22, would you rather go start at ISU for less money? I think a lot would.

So Alabama has something like 60 players in the NFL. Which is higher than the good guys.

It seems the odds of an NFL are better through Alabama.

So if I can get paid at Alabama and have a better chance of NFL life? Gone.

 

[Buzzer68]

Our Supreme Court has destroyed college sports as we’ve known it for the last 100 years.. This NIL and transfer stuff is BS that’s making the sport unwatchable…

 

[Tre4ISU]

Rumor that Knebraska paying Raiola $2,000,000 for all 4 years.

That’s a bargain if he lives up to his recruiting ranking.

 

[Tre4ISU]

Our Supreme Court has destroyed college sports as we’ve known it for the last 100 years.. This NIL and transfer stuff is BS that’s making the sport unwatchable…

NIL didn’t ruin anything. It put the money in the pockets of the kids who had a market value. The courts decision that said the NCAA does not have the ability to rule on eligibility created the mess. If these guys had to sit out, this would be a different deal completely.