*** Official #7 Kansas vs #23 IOWA STATE Game(Day) Thread ***

[ZRF]

Not even close, we completely shut down Houston.

We almost blew a 19 point second half lead against TCU. Luckily we played enough D the first 30 minutes of that game to hold on.

And that defense was the best we played all season, on the road (against a good team) at that.

Houston hasn't exactly lit the world on fire on the road and have only had 4 road games to date. Lets see how they do, consistently, on the road before annointing that performance.

More than anything I thought both teams were simply terrible offensively, in those games. Sometimes great D aids that and sometimes teams just suck in the absence of it. I thought it was more the latter than the former.

 

[bosco]

Sigh...you asked me why posters are responding to you and ZRF the way we are and I gave you an answer. If you don't like the answer then don't ask the question.

I don't think this board should be an echo chamber, no. I'm totally fine with discussions and different opinions, as long as they are offered in good faith.

But beating Kansas yesterday was awesome in every sense of the word and your arguments about why it actually wasn't so awesome are absurd and silly.

Again why are you saying that I didn't think it was awesome? Can you show me. Because that is opposite of how I feel about it. Can we agree that I didn't say that? If we're can't them we can't have any further discussion about it because you are basing what I said on false dialogue.

 

[Cychl82]

Sweet 16

Elite 8

 

[bosco]

Elite 8

Bold but I like it.

 

[NoCreativity]

And that defense was the best we played all season, on the road (against a good team) at that.

Houston hasn't exactly lit the world on fire on the road and have only had 4 road games to date. Lets see how they do, consistently, on the road before annointing that performance.

More than anything I thought both teams were simply terrible offensively, in those games. Sometimes great D aids that and sometimes teams just suck in the absence of it. I thought it was more the latter than the former.

Our defensive efficiency was 74.2 in the Houston game and 86.4 in the TCU game so its really not close like I said.

If you want to get technical, the Oklahoma State game was the best defensive performance of the year based on metrics and not counting the early buy games.

Im not going to argue with you, our defense has been fine, im not going to worry about a couple 10 minute lapses against elite competition.

 

[Cychl82]

Bold but I like it.

Sky can be the ceiling, I thought last week was 1-1 again but they keep at it. Excited and think they can do it but I’m as realistic as anyone

 

[bosco]

Sky can be the ceiling, I thought last week was 1-1 again but they keep at it. Excited and think they can do it but I’m as realistic as anyone

If the team gets the offense on the top 50 it's realistic.

 

[NWICY]

To get better.

I don't know, I'm pretty stupid. But you're the one arguing with an idiot.

Are you ZRF's brother for basketball season?

 

[bawbie]

That game was completely upside-down. We usually give up a ton of threes and nothing at the rim, and score at the rim but not well from 3. In this game Kansas consistently got whatever they wanted at the rim, but didn't get open 3s. We didn't score a ton at the rim, but made 14 threes.

It was also the first game we won this year while forcing a turnover on <20% of possessions. Only @ BYU as lower.

It's absolutely safe to say that we only won that game because of 3pt shooting. There's probably 1 or 2 games a year in which we'll shoot well enough to win the game due to 3 pt shooting - it was just really fortunate we got one against Kansas.

As I said before the Houston game - winning close games is a skill, and one we hadn't shown before 3 weeks ago. Now can say definitively that this team has that skill. They've been very "clutch" - especially Gilbert in the last couple of games. The three was just icing on the cake - the two layups before that were absolutely the game winning plays. We had gotten stagnant on offense after the barrage of threes cooled off, and his takes to the rim changed the end of the game completely.

 

[NWICY]

Yeah, welll...no joy in Egypt. But we were able to get JW and Eric, and that made for a great listen.

What time was the game on in Egypt?

 

[bosco]

Are you ZRF's brother for basketball season?

No. I actually don't agree with most of what he says. But I believe he has the right to post his opinion without being personally attacked.

 

[CySmurf]

Losses earlier in week and today include: #21 BYU, #6 Kentucky, #11 Oklahoma (lost twice this week), #8 Auburn (lost twice this week), #10 Illinois, #9 Arizona, #7 Kansas, #15 Baylor, #16 Dayton.

Iowa State is currently #12 in KenPom. Im going to guess their AP ranking on Monday is #13.

Win the next two @Baylor and @texas I think we can start discussing Big 12 title. Huge couple games coming up.

Just as long as it's not #9 in the AP ranking..

 

[cycloner29]

I figured the KU coaching would have noticed our FT shooting % and start committing more fouls to put us on the line. I mean at one point we were only shooting like 36% from the FT line. But then again they seemed more intent on working the refs just like Bill does.

 

[Clone95]

I figured the KU coaching would have noticed our FT shooting % and start committing more fouls to put us on the line. I mean at one point we were only shooting like 36% from the FT line. But then again they seemed more intent on working the refs just like Bill does.

They only played 6 players in the 2nd half. They couldn’t foul us too often. McCullar and Adams both had 4 as it was.

 

[trevn]

Contrarians with good intentions can be quite useful. These last few pages have been the opposite of useful.

 

[CRcyclone6]

We won by seven if you exclude the meaningless buzzer-three while down seven, which teams hit against us with 100% accuracy.

It wasn't meaningless with KU +4.5.

 

[BWRhasnoAC]

It wasn't meaningless with KU +4.5.

Ya that's two games now where a last second three flipped the spread winner.

 

[cs6804]

JFC, not since Jesus's crucifixion have I seen so much ******** about the journey to to ultimate goal.

 

[madguy30]

JFC, not since Jesus's crucifixion have I seen so much ******** about the journey to to ultimate goal.

You were there?

I have so many questions.

 

[bosco]

That game was completely upside-down. We usually give up a ton of threes and nothing at the rim, and score at the rim but not well from 3. In this game Kansas consistently got whatever they wanted at the rim, but didn't get open 3s. We didn't score a ton at the rim, but made 14 threes.

It was also the first game we won this year while forcing a turnover on <20% of possessions. Only @ BYU as lower.

It's absolutely safe to say that we only won that game because of 3pt shooting. There's probably 1 or 2 games a year in which we'll shoot well enough to win the game due to 3 pt shooting - it was just really fortunate we got one against Kansas.

As I said before the Houston game - winning close games is a skill, and one we hadn't shown before 3 weeks ago. Now can say definitively that this team has that skill. They've been very "clutch" - especially Gilbert in the last couple of games. The three was just icing on the cake - the two layups before that were absolutely the game winning plays. We had gotten stagnant on offense after the barrage of threes cooled off, and his takes to the rim changed the end of the game completely.

I like that KG gets more aggressive going to the hoop late in games. By that time we are in the bonus and it gives us production on offense where we struggle in the half court. He's like a closer at the end of games.