Omaha enters the transfer portal (confirmed)

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Disagree. Last thing we needed was a big man shooting 43%. Jones shared his minutes with Ward. If he played more and shot 12 times a game, he would have put up similar scoring numbers to Homan. Jones was a consummate team player. He shot 59% this year which is best on the team this year.
Legit curious. You have always been pretty quick to cut down Homan when someone brings him up. Any reason?
 
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If Omaha wasn't going to play defense, he was never going to play big minutes for us. Player ratings are what they are. He has raw talent for sure but I'm not sure he's a five star McDonald's level player. Offensively yes, defensively no. Not from what I saw. I think he's a great kid and I hope he finds a place with a system he fits better.
He was specifically called out for his good defense in the McDonald’s All American game. You really think he came in and wasn’t going to play defense?
 
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Legit curious. You have always been pretty quick to cut down Homan when someone brings him up. Any reason?
I couldn’t come up with any big man with limited offensive skills other than Homan. I don’t have anything against him. It is funny that one player (Jones) is constantly criticized and mocked and other player (Homan) is loved and beyond criticism.
 

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Jones was a great team player and he hustled like hell, but he had no offensive game at all, none. His game was getting a rebound and putting it back up, or getting the ball in the middle of the lane and shooting it right underneath the basket. He shot a team leading 59% because all his shots were within 3 feet of the basket.
The team would have been much better with a player that when he catches the ball at the free throw line who can either drive to the hoop or turn and shot a 15 foot jump shot. It thereby opens up the lane allowing our guards to dribble drive and either score or dish it off for an open three.
Now if you are playing Jones 10/15 minutes a game that is fine, but he started the entire year, and averaged 22 minutes a game. In every game Jones was our 5th scoring option. The kid was great and served his purpose, but if the staff cannot find someone that will produce more from the minutes he was getting, we are going to be in trouble.
You just described Homan’s offensive skills. Both Jones and Homan are offensively challenged. Homan had many put backs from offensive rebounds and short jumpers. He had no post moves, none. Jones has much better post moves than Homan ever had. You say things like Jones has no offensive skills, none but you get upset when I bring up Homan’s limited offensive skills.
 

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I can't speak for anyone else but I feel like we got scammed. I don't donate to that NIL stuff either but I know people who do, so they didn't get much ROI if some of their money went to getting Omaha here.

He was a colossal bust, that may sound harsh but it's the truth. It kills absolutely any enthusiasm I'll ever have for a high school player committing to Iowa State moving forward.
I'm not a huge donator to NIL, but I do donate meager amounts regularly. I can live with that. I would eventually like the lion's share to be supplemented by the university or corporate sponsors.

Not saying you can't have a voice, but your voice may be louder if you could doante at least a small portion to NIL. Is that worth it to you for entertainment value? If not, I don't know what to tell you.
 
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Its been reported repeatedly that TJ like many coaches meets with each player individually after the season, and talks to them about their role on the team for the next season, and what they have to improve on to get more playing time. I am sure that with Omaha he was told unless he can improve his basketball skill set greatly, that he would not be getting a large increase in playing time. No matter how athletic the kid was, his BB IQ was very low or very slow, it does not matter, he wasn't going to get the playing time he wanted, and made the decision to leave. Sometimes it happens, kids are ranked too high or too low, the ranking system is not perfect, as we all know.

I really doubt that Omaha is going to move on and become a star player at another school, he might, but I would not bet on it.
Not sure why some people just cannot admit that he was greatly overrated as a basketball player, wish him luck as ISU goes in a different direction player wise.
People on here refuse to admit that Omaha is flat out not good because he’s a kid from Iowa that loved ISU growing up. The bottom line is he is so far off in development and seems nowhere close to being a valuable contributor. I don’t see him turning into anything special in the next three years. Wish him luck, but don’t think he’s ever going to be able to transition to the college level.
 

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People on here refuse to admit that Omaha is flat out not good because he’s a kid from Iowa that loved ISU growing up. The bottom line is he is so far off in development and seems nowhere close to being a valuable contributor. I don’t see him turning into anything special in the next three years. Wish him luck, but don’t think he’s ever going to be able to transition to the college level.
I agree with you at some level. To say he’s flat out not good might be a reach. Is he currently good, no not really. Could he develop into a nice player that can have a nice career somewhere? Absolutely, look at Darlinstone Dubar. My jaw dropped when I saw his name popping up on Saturday on names blue bloods were targeting. He has developed nicely.

I will agree that people seem to be taking it personal due to where he’s from and the recruitment process. There’s been some really bad posts.
 

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You just described Homan’s offensive skills. Both Jones and Homan are offensively challenged. Homan had many put backs from offensive rebounds and short jumpers. He had no post moves, none. Jones has much better post moves than Homan ever had. You say things like Jones has no offensive skills, none but you get upset when I bring up Homan’s limited offensive skills.
But one averaged almost 14 points as a senior while the other averaged 7.7, but according to you, the guy with lesser numbers was the better player.
 
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But one averaged almost 14 points as a senior while the other averaged 7.7, but according to you, the guy with lesser numbers was the better player.
No, he shot only 43% and took 12 shots per game to do it. I never said Jones was a better player overall. All I said was Jones has better post moves than Homan.
 
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I think the whole Omaha saga is as much an indictment of the quality of Iowa HS basketball as much as anything else. Yeah, Omaha looked like a 5-star in HS because he's in Waukee, IA playing 2A Iowa boys BB teams. Put him in the Chicago Public League and you'd never even have heard from him. He'd probably still get 3 stars because of his raw athleticism, but no way Omaha dominates Proviso East like he dominates Decorah HS.
 

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I think the whole Omaha saga is as much an indictment of the quality of Iowa HS basketball as much as anything else. Yeah, Omaha looked like a 5-star in HS because he's in Waukee, IA playing 2A Iowa boys BB teams. Put him in the Chicago Public League and you'd never even have heard from him. He'd probably still get 3 stars because of his raw athleticism, but no way Omaha dominates Proviso East like he dominates Decorah HS.
I think there is some truth to what you’re saying but these kids are getting ranked largely on what they look like on the AAU circuit.
 

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I think the whole Omaha saga is as much an indictment of the quality of Iowa HS basketball as much as anything else. Yeah, Omaha looked like a 5-star in HS because he's in Waukee, IA playing 2A Iowa boys BB teams. Put him in the Chicago Public League and you'd never even have heard from him. He'd probably still get 3 stars because of his raw athleticism, but no way Omaha dominates Proviso East like he dominates Decorah HS.
Omaha stared in national all-star games when he was up against the best talent in the country. That is the way BB works now, it's not what you are going against Dowling, but how you do during the summer tournaments and leagues.
In any all-star game is all about offense, teams are getting up and down the floor. Not much team defense is being played, because every kid is trying to showcase his skills. Omaha's skills are for a big guy he runs the floor very well. These scouts are not looking at what he is doing now, they are trying to project what he going to look like 2 or 3 years from now, that is what the star rating is based on. The kid just has never developed the finer parts of the game.
 
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I think the whole Omaha saga is as much an indictment of the quality of Iowa HS basketball as much as anything else. Yeah, Omaha looked like a 5-star in HS because he's in Waukee, IA playing 2A Iowa boys BB teams. Put him in the Chicago Public League and you'd never even have heard from him. He'd probably still get 3 stars because of his raw athleticism, but no way Omaha dominates Proviso East like he dominates Decorah HS.
They don’t get ranked based on their HS teams. It’s all about AAU.

And Waukee isn’t playing 2A schools. The state is mediocre in producing talent, but not bad considering its population. But definitely the bigs are hard to evaluate in HS. There just aren’t many athletic bigs in HS period, let alone in Iowa.
 
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Legit curious. You have always been pretty quick to cut down Homan when someone brings him up. Any reason?
Its a weird thing to do. Rob does alot of the same things. The one thing Homan gave you though was FT shooting. While Rob improved there Homan would have been the best FT shooter on the team this past year.
 
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People on here refuse to admit that Omaha is flat out not good because he’s a kid from Iowa that loved ISU growing up. The bottom line is he is so far off in development and seems nowhere close to being a valuable contributor. I don’t see him turning into anything special in the next three years. Wish him luck, but don’t think he’s ever going to be able to transition to the college level.
I don't think you can definitively say anything other than he was not good in our defensive scheme (and lacking offensive polish at this point). In a straight man to man, he might be less confused and more able to utilize his natural abilities.
 
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I don't think you can definitively say anything other than he was not good in our defensive scheme (and lacking offensive polish at this point). In a straight man to man, he might be less confused and more able to utilize his natural abilities.

This is possible but an opposing coach will pick up on things and start creating situations that he has to switch on/picks/cuts which still might be an issue.
 
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Its a weird thing to do. Rob does alot of the same things. The one thing Homan gave you though was FT shooting. While Rob improved there Homan would have been the best FT shooter on the team this past year.

BRE had exceptional quickness along with his good length. One of the big reasons our defense worked so well was the tipped passes And deflections. Defense was the reason BRE was in the game. Iowa State Offense when Homan was in school was Stinson and Blalock. Homan was to pick up rebounds and garbage points. On defense stay back and play position defense. I just don’t see Homan being quick enough or with the ability to disrupt opposing teams passing lanes like BRE did. And this years offense would not work with out our defense and points off turnovers.
 
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BRE had exceptional quickness along with his good length. One of the big reasons our defense worked so well was the tipped passes And deflections. Defense was the reason BRE was in the game. Iowa State Offense when Homan was in school was Stinson and Blalock. Homan was to pick up rebounds and garbage points. On defense stay back and play position defense. I just don’t see Homan being quick enough or with the ability to disrupt opposing teams passing lanes like BRE did. And this years offense would not work with out our defense and points off turnovers.

Same here
 

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