Yeah, they just built a small football stadium and a small basketball arena because that's the only way they can fill them. They're in the middle of Texas and they can't fill an ISU size stadium.
Big 12 Conference Realignment
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You do realize 3 times in just over a decade the Big 12 was on life support. Until 2023, the Big 12 and ACC were the only power 5 conferences to not raid from another power 5 conference. The Big 12 HAD to be in a position to take readily available schools just to survive. Look at the ACC now for deciding to be passive. Half the schools are trying to break their GOR to get out of the conference.
The Big Ten took schools not to survive but to grow the revenue per team in the conference.. aka GREED.. At the expense of legacy college football as we know it.
Don’t try to tell us the Big 12 is to blame for the destruction of the Pac 12.
I think he was being genuine that Big 12 obviously very little to do with killing off Pac.
The really sad thing in this for WSU and Ore St, is that it was the California schools who killed that merger, especially the two that wanted to bolt for Big Ten anyway.
I actually think the Big 12 is stronger the way it shook out, but those 16 schools that would have been left long term from that merger would've been a fine conference and you could had had historical divisions with 8 pac and 8 big 12.
ACC then wold have been looking at same canidates for growth after it gets poached like UConn, Cincy, UCF, Houston, SMU, etc... BYU probably would have been the one who got screwed compared to where they are now actually.
So Detroit is really big, like you can fit manhattan, San Fran and I think San Diego in its borders. Those outer edges are a ******* lawless wildlands so I agree but the majority of actual downtown is actually really nice. Everyone that came for the draft was stunned. Very little homeless issues and a lot of really walkable area now. Still has issues in areas but what major city doesn’t
Incompetence played a gigantic role. They had multiple opportunities to kill the B12. Sure, Texas played a role in the first two falling apart (Longhorn Network), but the last two are entirely on the PAC or PAC schools.
If USC stood aside on expansion, the PAC survives. If the PAC took the best offer they got in 2022, the PAC survives.
I mean Can you imagine being homeless in Detroit. I think if I was homeless I would be hiking south.
Also Im not sure what you call outer edges.
I see a lot of abandoned/vacant areas just outside downtown here.
The B10 and Fox Sports killed the P12, its that simple, just like ESPN and the SEC put the B12 in danger when they took OU and UT. I don't blame any school looking out for its best interest, but in both cases OU and UT were undermining the B12 chances for a better TV deal, while talking to the SEC and USC and UCLA did the same to the P12. Talking to the B10 while voting no, on expanding the league.
What you see as just outside is equal to most city suburbs, Detroit's land that you see is bigger than Philly despite having 35% of the population. It’s a very large land area
I sensed sarcasm. Message boards are very difficult to determine sincerity of messaging.
You are right, this should be a model city. No most cities are not like this.
Tell me another city that has lost 70% of its population. Tell me a city that in the last century went from close to 2 mil population to now approaching only 500k.
This is not about the size of the city.
I challenge you to find a single neighborhood in Des Moines that looks like this, as far out of downtown you want to go.
As a matter of fact most cities the outskirts are exploding, DM suburbs are some of the fastest growing in the country. So you cant say its because these areas are outside downtown as a reason for them being abandoned.
Detroit is a dump, outside a block or two downtown, maybe.
If so, I’m sorry @FriendlySpartan. Most ISU fans connected to realignment saw our beloved Cyclones about get relegated 3 times due to the greed of the top of the legacy Big 12, SEC, and Big Ten. This subject sucks and is ruining college football. I’m just glad our conference leadership is finally being proactive instead of just letting our conference die.
If that's what you really meant, you could have stopped after your first two words. The rest of your sentence appeared 'tongue in cheek'.
No need to be confused. You're pretty smart. Unless you live in Ames, or support the Big 12, it's hard for you to understand.
Hey man I’m just saying what I feel about the area, downtown Detroit is pretty awesome. White flight is real and the metro area is still 100% dealing with it. Most people that go to Detroit proper are very surprised. Public transit will always suck though
Not even close, Detroit ranks 14th in the US, while SF is 12th and SD is 17th.
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Which Metropolitan Areas in the United States Have the Largest Populations?
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very true, the issue with Jack Trice is the gradual incline on the lower levels instead of a steep incline on the lower levels. The former puts the upper deck further from the field instead of a more on the top of the field feel/view with the upper decks on top of lower decks with steeper inclines.
My dream would be to tear down our upper decks and completely redo them - make them significantly more vertical, with multiple levels and a “cover” / awning system like Washington has. Wouldn’t even need to increase capacity.
Oh, and add a legit (non-high school-ass) press box.
