Utah slowly slipping away

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Are you saying if Utah were in the Pac 12 they'd be doing well? They were 8-5 last season, as was USC and both teams are worse this year. Washington and AZ are quite literally different teams than last year.

This reminds me of the 'Nebraska got bad because they went to the Big Ten' narrative.

They're just not very good.

I'm having fun watching the Big 12 but it's not exactly a murderer's row.
Yes they would be doing better.
Nebraska lost their recruiting ground and since you could not pay players allegedly their access to Texas dried up.

Nebraska also hit their first year of Big 10 play 7-1, then a couple of 5-3 years
 
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They could still do us a solid in the Holy War
BYU has some douche fans but @CyCoug is a solid poster don't think Utah has had a decent fan post here yet. So I'm formally in the screw Utah camp. I have yet to figure out why they think they are so good when they are OK at best, oh well it's fun to watch them get served up a big helping of humble pie.
 
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You’re sick of people wanting ISU in the Big 12 Championship to give us a chance to win a conference title that we haven’t won in over 100 years? Or sick of people wanting a crack at the CFP? Weird.

Because as of right now this is shaping up to where we have to go 12-0 to get any of those things. Can we do it? Sure. But we all would be absolutely devastated to go 11-1 and NOT even play for the conference championship. Doesn’t diminish what the team will have done, but to lose on a fricking tiebreaker with the record where ANY other year it would get you a spot in Arlington would absolutely suck.

So yes, cheer against BYU, K State and Colorado.
I couldn’t agree more. The only thing that matters to me at this point is winning a conference championship trophy. I don’t care about the playoffs. Change my mind.
 

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Honestly Utah looks so bad that I think even with a healthy Cam Rising they would be a slightly better Cincinnati. Their playcalling is terrible and not just can’t they pass right now but they cannot run.

I hope they continue not to figure how to score points and miss a bowl.
 

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What's the sound a toilet makes after it takes its first pull? Utah's right there.
 

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Honestly kinda sick of the narrative that we should root against BYU and K-State. As far as I'm concerned, we should root for multiple bids from the Big 12 if possible. The national narrative around this conference right now isn't great to begin with. We might as well try to maximize the bids while we can, regardless of what records look like.
I’m actually also not really rooting against K-State and BYU, because I want us to stay undefeated, beat them all, and not have ESPN question whether we’re good or got in because someone from the Big 12 had to make it. I understand wanting these teams to lose if we lose, but until that time….we’re in command. Let’s just keep winning.
 

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I’m actually also not really rooting against K-State and BYU, because I want us to stay undefeated, beat them all, and not have ESPN question whether we’re good or got in because someone from the Big 12 had to make it. I understand wanting these teams to lose if we lose, but until that time….we’re in command. Let’s just keep winning.
They are going to say that anyway. Rules are rules and winning the Big 12 title gets us a spot in the CFP (I know, I know. Technically it doesn’t, but it will at this point since we will have a record that is at worst 2 losses if we win the conference). So that’s what I want. Hopefully it’s us being undefeated because that would just be cool.
 

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They are going to say that anyway. Rules are rules and winning the Big 12 title gets us a spot in the CFP (I know, I know. Technically it doesn’t, but it will at this point since we will have a record that is at worst 2 losses if we win the conference). So that’s what I want. Hopefully it’s us being undefeated because that would just be cool.
I don’t think so, because it means we would have beaten both K-State and BYU. We should be the favorite in every game up to the championship game. No idea who would be favored between us and BYU. But if we win out, we’re a legit top-4 team in my opinion. Right now, we’re not tested enough to say that. I think we’re legit a borderline top-10 team today.
 

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I don’t think so, because it means we would have beaten both K-State and BYU. We should be the favorite in every game up to the championship game. No idea who would be favored between us and BYU. But if we win out, we’re a legit top-4 team in my opinion. Right now, we’re not tested enough to say that. I think we’re legit a borderline top-10 team today.
I think I saw neutral field we would be a 2.5 point favorite against BYU right now.
 

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I don't think anybody is wrong in what they want.

1. I get wanting other teams to lose to guarantee ISU a spot in the Big 12 CG. It guarantees us a spot there which then gives us our direct opportunity to get to the CFP.
2. I kind of want BYU to win out because IMO that's the only chance ISU has of losing that game and still making the CFP.
3. The national narrative around this conference will not change until we have teams win in the CFP and start winning noncon games. the non conference slate for the Big 12 was an absolute disaster, we can admit it.
I don’t think winning those games will change the national narrative.

There’s literally nothing the Big 12 can do to change it.
 
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BYU has some douche fans but @CyCoug is a solid poster don't think Utah has had a decent fan post here yet. So I'm formally in the screw Utah camp. I have yet to figure out why they think they are so good when they are OK at best, oh well it's fun to watch them get served up a big helping of humble pie.
Hey thanks for the call out. To be fair, I grew up in Ames, which tends to make people somewhat douche-resistant.
 

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I don’t think winning those games will change the national narrative.

There’s literally nothing the Big 12 can do to change it.

Don’t be absurd. If Big 12 teams win the next 10 nattys of course it would change.

It’ll take some work and every game matters.
 

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If any Big 12 team makes the playoffs and does anything short of making the championship game and only losing by 10 or so, as soon as they lose the narrative will be which Power 2 team should have been in instead?
 
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Don’t be absurd. If Big 12 teams win the next 10 nattys of course it would change.

It’ll take some work and every game matters.
Unless those Big 12 schools grew larger brands and bigger followings, it wouldn’t matter.

Perception in college football has more to do with what happened 30 years ago than it does with what’s happened this season
 

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BYU has some douche fans but @CyCoug is a solid poster don't think Utah has had a decent fan post here yet. So I'm formally in the screw Utah camp. I have yet to figure out why they think they are so good when they are OK at best, oh well it's fun to watch them get served up a big helping of humble pie.

I would like to see what their fans were like before Urban Meyer got them good.