Williams & Blum Pod: ISU raises prices, bowl win, foul play in the CFP?

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I wish that was all that was needed for basketball! Try 5x that.
Our BB team costs 4 million this yr? Hell no wonder we are good. Congrats on TJ keeping it all headed the right direction and the good job you do keeping all of us interested and engaged. You do a great job Blum.
 

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I don't think there is any question that they will if/when WWC funds are transitioned to the AD effective July 1st.

I was shocked by Blum's disclosure that there are more WWC contributors than NCC contributors.
I was shockingly encouraged by that stat. Once We Will goes in-house, grandfather all those WWC donors in the NCC as members. Continue to offer a modest entry point new members. @brentblum
 
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I was thinking that maybe there could be a donation/club level for young people where they get a voucher for a pair of game tickets for every $500 they donate if they donate monthly. The vouchers would apply to any game that is not sold out two weeks prior to kickoff, and they could roll the vouchers over from year to year if they go unused. If someone wanted to give $10/mo and take a few years to get a pair of free tickets that's fine. If they want to give $43/mo to ensure they have a pair of tickets to use every season, that's fine too. Maybe the vouchers could apply to men and women's basketball as well?

It would be a great incentive for new alumni to get into the habit of donating and also put butts into seats for games that might otherwise be hard to sell. Win-win.

You can't provide amenities of any fixed value for small donations but this would be something that gives flexibility for young families to get even more people access to the awesome game day experience in JTS/Hilton.
 

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Not exactly sure.
liability it opens up the athletic department to. for? there within? not sure of the correct term.

who is responsible if someone is overserved, underage people are served, beer cans getting thrown at the officials when we inevitably get hosed, etc...

i dont think JP wants to deal with any of that for any amount of money.
Heck the student section was throwing crap at a couple games. I remember a water bottle making it into the endzone.
 
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Ha, no the email was clear, no money from CyTown is going to athletics or in any way to offset this $20M gap! Now pay up!
IIRC, Regents had this as a (late?) condition of approval. CyTown will allow the AD to properly fund the manage/improve the Iowa State Center, I assume without digging into AD funds.
 

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Our BB team costs 4 million this yr? Hell no wonder we are good. Congrats on TJ keeping it all headed the right direction and the good job you do keeping all of us interested and engaged. You do a great job Blum.
That's the goal for next year. This year is about half of that.
 

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Now we’re getting somewhere. $1 mill in profit on alcohol sales vs the potential profit loss on Sukup ticket sales. That’s what you need to look at.
Where does your Sukup number come from? Number of seats X price? It’s not like they would go from full to empty. Personally, as indicated, I don’t think this would have any impact.
 

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Iowa give 30% for alcohol substance control. Like casinos putting part to gambling abuse prevention. Is that 30% in the 50%?
Good point. I’m assuming the increase in cost for security/police is accounted for in the 50%. Large added expense that hasn’t been referenced in this thread.
 
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They've been discussed both on this thread and on the podcast but you're so obsessed with gambling you've overlooked them.
That's funny, it seems there are several others on this thread who must have overlooked your reasons. Guess we're all obsessed with gambling.
 

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Where does your Sukup number come from? Number of seats X price? It’s not like they would go from full to empty. Personally, as indicated, I don’t think this would have any impact.
2800 seats at $999 each. I also never said it would go from $2.8 million to 0.
 

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he has been against it for so long that it might look bad to implement beer sales and have it be wildly successful?

there is also the liability it opens up the AD to.
I’m ready to have it sold at games and move threads like to &!+@#ing about beer prices, lines, temperature, vendors, can leave at half, etc., as well as &!+@#ing about drunk fans, more vulgarity, spilling beer, more arrests, more fights, lost premium seating revenue, etc..
 
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I find it odd Pollard wont sell alcohol seeing how profitable it could be. That being said he isnt the type of guy to not try and generate cash flow when the opportunity is there. He is a bean counter by nature so he knows exactly how much we would stand to make. It seems like it may not be worth it, which I find hard to believe.
I think JP is banking on growing the donor base with the young Alumni and their families. He is trying to keep it family friendly: as he’s stated. I think the net from beer sales aren’t seen like enough to risk the environment he’s tried to build.
 

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Regarding alcohol: People at ISU tell me it would likely bring in less than a million after insurance, all that crap that's over my head. So feel free to form whatever opinion you have on that.

My take on the opt-outs, etc. It's a systematic thing. Not a specific critique of ISU. The leaders of college athletics are making this professional sports, not me. If they want to keep going this way, then have participation reports like the NFL does. Transparency is a good thing.. This will be mandatory across the board in the next two years. Gambling is a part of the equation, but not the entire thing. I think fans (who are paying the bill) deserve the right to know what's going on - especially once these guys are officially getting paid.

Full disclosure: I don't know how they are going to do it all with HIPPA laws and what not. Smarter people than me will figure it out.
With regard to HIPAA-

The privacy laws under HIPAA only apply to “covered entities” which include healthcare providers, health insurance providers, and those types of entities. The ISU AD is not a covered entity with regard to HIPAA.

As a public university, FERPA may also apply to keep private education records which may in some circumstances include medical records.

In either case, it would be reasonable for a waiver requirement for the athletes employed by the department. It’s honestly not that big of a deal from a law perspective.

It could get a little complicated if there is a collective bargaining agreement that comes out with some kind of players association, but that’s just contractural law and not really based on HIPAA or FERPA or any other federal privacy laws.
 
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With regard to HIPAA-

The privacy laws under HIPAA only apply to “covered entities” which include healthcare providers, health insurance providers, and those types of entities. The ISU AD is not a covered entity with regard to HIPAA.

As a public university, FERPA may also apply to keep private education records which may in some circumstances include medical records.

In either case, it would be reasonable for a waiver requirement for the athletes employed by the department. It’s honestly not that big of a deal from a law perspective.

It could get a little complicated if there is a collective bargaining agreement that comes out with some kind of players association, but that’s just contractural law and not really based on HIPAA or FERPA or any other federal privacy laws.
A school might be considered a covered entity, if they render any care to the injured person. Like a member of the training staff doing initial triage on an injury. It definitely gets in the grey zone. I'd be interested to see how it would play out in the court system.
 

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Is this a reference to the late 90s claim that a new mall on the way is the ultimate solution for everything in Ames?

If so...bravo. Has any take aged as poorly as that?
I took his comments to be a dig on CyTown