When do you think you will buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

When will you buy a 100% pure electric vehicle?

  • Already Own One

    Votes: 54 6.6%
  • In the next year

    Votes: 8 1.0%
  • Between 1-5 years

    Votes: 144 17.6%
  • 6-10 years

    Votes: 186 22.8%
  • 10+ years or never

    Votes: 425 52.0%

  • Total voters
    817

bstegs

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Attended Toyota open house of their R&D.

Looking at a Toyota Mirai after that amazing vehicle
Any sign of an EREV Sienna? My wife's 2016 Sienna has about 130k miles on it, and I'm trying to hold out until someone (anyone) releases an EREV minivan. That to me is the sweet spot for trucks and vans.
 
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bstegs

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I think fuel cost on big trucks is even more of a factor than smaller EVs. Where I’m at with typical $5-6 gas I really think even a new gas truck is the more expensive “burn a pile of cash” choice.

Iowa with the ethanol subsidies is going to be the very last place where fuel cost creates that flip.
I have 48 solar panels with a lot of surplus electricity. That coupled with the 0% financing I got last year made the choice to get my lightning much easier.

Even without the solar, I calculate my cost per mile at roughly equivalent to 45 mpg with $3.30 gas if charging at home. If I go to an EA stop, even with the membership, that drops to about 9 mpg.
 

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I have 48 solar panels with a lot of surplus electricity. That coupled with the 0% financing I got last year made the choice to get my lightning much easier.

Even without the solar, I calculate my cost per mile at roughly equivalent to 45 mpg with $3.30 gas if charging at home. If I go to an EA stop, even with the membership, that drops to about 9 mpg.

That’s cool even with the biggest consumer EV and a low gas cost state some people can still get significant fuel savings.
 

NebrClone

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It doesn't have to be your only vehicle, just your first.
Have change my vote. Was not looking for a hybrid, but to good of a deal to pass up. Bought a 2022 Pacifica Hybrid for the wife. It only had 12,000 miles on it, owned by a 92 year old that had to go into the nursing home. Only paid $28,000 for a $54,000 vehicle. It costs 4 to 5 cents for electricity and 9 to 10 cents for gas per mile. We can make two trips two town on 1 charge and it gets 30 mpg on gas. My Durango cost 14 to 15 cents for gas per mile and gets 20 to 22 mpg.
 
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1SEIACLONE

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You and your wife can make it all the way from Des Moines to Chicago without stopping now? Bathroom, or do you pee in bottles?
Its not the stopping that is the problem, its the amount of time it takes to refuel the EV, for a regular gas vehicle we are talking less than 5 minutes, until we can fully charge an EV in 10 to 15 minutes, its never going to be a huge seller and always be the work or second vehicle for many.
 

fsanford

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Not trying to be an ace, but you really think it's going to happen? I have a hydrogen station about 1 mile away too, but I have an electric fuel station in my own house.
Sure, Tesla is working on it's own versions as well.

Toyota is also working on fuel cell generators as well. Amazing how many homes an 8 x 10 foot generator can can power.
 
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BryceC

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Its not the stopping that is the problem, its the amount of time it takes to refuel the EV, for a regular gas vehicle we are talking less than 5 minutes, until we can fully charge an EV in 10 to 15 minutes, its never going to be a huge seller and always be the work or second vehicle for many.

If everybody’s second car is going to be an EV they’d be huge sellers.
 
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1SEIACLONE

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If everybody’s second car is going to be an EV they’d be huge sellers.
I never said it would be everyone second vehicle, what I am saying is that until they solve the problem of how long it takes to get a full charge, these vehicles are going to be purchased for very specific applications like a work vehicle that you to only to work or around town.
Recharging time is the problem, get that number down to 10 to 15 minutes, and more people will purchase them, until that happens, they won't.
 

MeowingCows

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I never said it would be everyone second vehicle, what I am saying is that until they solve the problem of how long it takes to get a full charge, these vehicles are going to be purchased for very specific applications like a work vehicle that you to only to work or around town.
Recharging time is the problem, get that number down to 10 to 15 minutes, and more people will purchase them, until that happens, they won't.
I don't quite see the practical outrage there unless you are a person who puts gas into a car every single day. It's an overblown talking point.

You don't put gas into a car every day. You can/do put charge into an EV every day.
 
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