Sankey says he wants to hear some fresh ideas. Ok, I got one he can chew on.
How about a 5 + 3 model? 16 teams is a joke.
How about a 5 + 3 model? 16 teams is a joke.
SEC/Big10 Pushing for 16 Team Playoff
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Agree, 8 would've been the best.
Great response here by the B12 to another dumb eff remark by Pettiti:
I get it’s his job to say it but that is entirely dependent on schedule which he and everyone knows. I kinda wonder what the question was to get to that answer
What would that schedule have to look like to have a 4 loss team make the playoffs? Is the Big Ten scheduling the NFC North now?
Even then, the big 10 is top heavy enough that it's decently likely that if you're 6-3 and had a "stumble" in the noncon you probably lost vs all the good teams you played and the only team with a pulse in the noncon you played was a loss as well (I don't think there are many big 10 teams scheduling more than 1 game vs p4 at least)
Not exactly screaming playoff resume there.
conference needs to do 1000x more of this
SMU being in front of BYU all last season was absurd.
You would have to be crushed by the schedule gods that’s for sure. Probably an OOC SEC match, then probably have to play the top 5/6 teams in the conference that year.
I agree 4 loses is disqualifying 99/100 times but if it was an insane schedule and you had wins over playoff teams and the loses were to top 25ish teams I could see an argument.
But that’s extreme which is why it’s stupid to say.
16 teams should be 5-11. But they insane bias that the B10 and SEC get needs to be reigned in too. The preseason rankings overinflate the values of those conferences and it carries through the season. Because... hypothetical reasons.
No conf should get 4 autobids. Hell no conf gets that many auto bids in the NCAA with 68 teams getting in.
The absolute most should be 3-3-3-3-1-3, or 3-3-3-3-4. I think to cover antitrust they have to give the G5 at least 1 auto bid if the rest get them.
No conf should get 4 autobids. Hell no conf gets that many auto bids in the NCAA with 68 teams getting in.
The absolute most should be 3-3-3-3-1-3, or 3-3-3-3-4. I think to cover antitrust they have to give the G5 at least 1 auto bid if the rest get them.
Because of its size, 9 games and how top half heavy it is, the Big Ten has the toughest and easiest power conference schedules. It's literally both.
I'd still argue at 8-4 even if 3 of the losses are really good Big Ten losses, that non conf loss better also be to a top 25ish team. College football is pretty much dead as we've known it if 8-4 teams in the media favorite conferences get automatic playoff births, regular season becomes meaningless for maybe 10 programs who can waltz to 8-4.
Forget autobids. Total conference bids should be capped at 4. If you can’t finish top 4 in your league, how do you make an argument that you should play for the national title? Top 4 would be more than enough to account for uneven schedules or games dropped due to injuries.
Exactly my point, also forgot this is probably in regards to the playoff expansion (still don’t know the question that elicited this answer.
I could give a hypothetical using Michigan: they come in preseason ranked top 10, drop a week one game to a Texas/bama/ND type then go into conference play and pick up away losses to 2 ranked west coast teams (Oregon/USC for arguments sake) then pick up a third loss to sparty (rivalry games are always weirdly considered) but have wins over OSU, Penn state, (highly ranked) and then maybe another quality win over a t am like last years Indiana or this years Illinois.
Add in the cupcakes or mid tier wins and that gets you to 8-4 with an argument for a further expanded playoffs but my god is that an outlier scenario
I’d be shocked if a 5th place team ever got in. 4 I could see pretty easily but not 5. That would have to be a pretty wild year.
Also if you’re gonna let a G5 in you can’t use the arguement that you want teams only capable of winning a title. Otherwise we could have kept the playoffs at 4-6 teams and called it a day.
Change that could to a should and you’ve got the correct answer.
When you said “schedule”, I think you meant “brand”. And by brand you mean OSU, Michigan, and maybe Penn State
No way Ohio State is left out of a 16 team playoff even if they have four losses and finish 5th in the conference. Same with Alabama and Georgia in the SEC. They might even get in with 5 losses. They would have to be awful for the committee to not spin a way to get them in.
Bama just got left out with fewer for a 12. It 100% is possible. This isn’t sabans bama
I agree, I only say 5 autobids, because if you are the conf champ then you should really get a spot, and giving one to the G5 appeases them. But I totally agree conferences should be capped at 4.
Personally with the schedules we have now with no true round robin and oversized conferences. The conf champion should be bases on the season like in BB. Have a season champ and a tourney champ, its not really the same with out having divisions etc. The way they have made it is the championship game is pointless and meaningless, and is just a exhibition game. And we have seen playing in it tends to hurt more than help.
Cant be in the top 4, conf is "overpowered" compared to others, then dont push for mega conferences full of so called blue bloods and power houses. They wanted it this way, then deal with the consequences, they wanted the money, now live with the decision.
