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[Rural]

I do think you bring up a good point. Not sure I'd really want 7 seniors on the team next year or not.... unless of course we get to the final four or something.

Obviously, if you lose two players that don't appear like they'll ever contribute much, and you pick up two players that will contribute, that has to be a positive, but all these one year transfers I think will come back to haunt you.

If anything, get a transfer that has 2 or 3 years left, that would help dramatically IMO over a one year guy.

I think a good rule of thumb would be that you don't bring in more transfers in any given year than you do freshmen. IMO, as long as you are bringing in more true freshmen each year than transfers, you should be ok. I just don't want to get to the point where we're bringing in 3 transfers and one freshmen or something like that. I don't think that's healthy long term for the program.

I'm not opposed to giving Bubu one of them if we can't find anyone worth bringing in. I don't understand why there's all the hate for this kid? He has in fact deserved a scholarship, that is not even in question in my mind. But if he's willing to be a walk-on so Fred can get more help, that's just frosting on the cake.

But Bubu is deserving of a scholarship, that's not even up for debate. Fred said something to the affect after the Kentucky game that our ability to defend Kentucky's guards down the stretch suffered dramatically when Bubu fouled out. Go back and check it.... that's what he said. He basically said he was our best defender out there that night. If you don't think that kid deserves a scholarship, you're crazy.

But like I said, if Bubu's willing to forgoe the scholarship so Fred can bring in more depth to win more games, that's great.

And if you think top 20ish talent like Lockett and Oriakhi are willing to come on board but Fred is going to be magnanimous and give it to Bubu, you're crazy.

 

[CYVADER]

I do think you bring up a good point. Not sure I'd really want 7 seniors on the team next year or not.... unless of course we get to the final four or something. Obviously, if you lose two players that don't appear like they'll ever contribute much, and you pick up two players that will contribute, that has to be a positive, but all these one year transfers I think will come back to haunt you. If anything, get a transfer that has 2 or 3 years left, that would help dramatically IMO over a one year guy. I think a good rule of thumb would be that you don't bring in more transfers in any given year than you do freshmen. IMO, as long as you are bringing in more true freshmen each year than transfers, you should be ok. I just don't want to get to the point where we're bringing in 3 transfers and one freshmen or something like that. I don't think that's healthy long term for the program. I'm not opposed to giving Bubu one of them if we can't find anyone worth bringing in. I don't understand why there's all the hate for this kid? He has in fact deserved a scholarship, that is not even in question in my mind. But if he's willing to be a walk-on so Fred can get more help, that's just frosting on the cake. But Bubu is deserving of a scholarship, that's not even up for debate. Fred said something to the affect after the Kentucky game that our ability to defend Kentucky's guards down the stretch suffered dramatically when Bubu fouled out. Go back and check it.... that's what he said. He basically said he was our best defender out there that night. If you don't think that kid deserves a scholarship, you're crazy. But like I said, if Bubu's willing to forgoe the scholarship so Fred can bring in more depth to win more games, that's great.

And if you think top 20ish talent like Lockett and Oriakhi are willing to come on board but Fred is going to be magnanimous and give it to Bubu, you're crazy.

wouldn't lockett sit next year anyway? he wouldn't leave till after next year so he would be helping to balance the classes a bit...

 

[ISUAgronomist]

wouldn't lockett sit next year anyway? he wouldn't leave till after next year so he would be helping to balance the classes a bit...

Transfer and play right away when family is the reason for the transfer.

 

[longtimeclone]

Transfer and play right away when family is the reason for the transfer.

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

 

[peteypie]

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

Yes, the reason he is transferring is because of family reasons. But the reason he could play right away is because he has already graduated.

 

[ISUAgronomist]

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

If you have an ill family member, which he does, you can transfer closer to home without sitting out.

Currently, only players who have either graduated or are granted hardship waivers due to family issues are eligible to play immediately upon transfer.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...or-transfers-under-consideration-by-the-ncaa/

 

[Cincyclone]

Transfer and play right away when family is the reason for the transfer.

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

You're both right. Regardless of what rule it utilized, Lockett will play next year.

 

[Cydkar]

Bubu doesn't have to be willing to give up the scholarship. He's not a scholarship player, he's a walk on...with a scholarship.

 

[Cincyclone]

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

If you have an ill family member, which he does, you can transfer closer to home without sitting out.

This is true. Remember Tyler Smith for Iowa. But Lockett is set to graduate this summer after three years. If he can find a grad program offered at ISU and not ASU (shouldn't be a problem) he doesn't need to sit out

Regardless, Lockett will be playing next year.

 

[Cyclonepride]

But the winning may not continue at the point where you are depending every single year on finding a diamond in the rough transfer to come in to save you. I think you need to have some younger guys that you are developing at all times.

We have four freshman coming in, plus Gibson and Ejim are still here. That's a fairly solid base to work from. If we are taking two, I'd prefer a one and done and a solid freshman or juco for the same reasons you are listing, but if I don't think it's a bad strategy to take the best available if they're there.

 

[longtimeclone]

You're both right. Regardless of what rule it utilized, Lockett will play next year.

Yeah I think it is pretty much a double whammy.

I would be curious though it the NCAA has to approve the school the player is transferring to if they use the "ill family member exception" because I could see this being abused by players

 

[Cyforce]

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

the article says he's trying to move up his timetable to graduate in 3 years. He's taking 23 hours now and would finish over the summer. Which means he won't be here over the summer.

My question is how does he fit?
He's a 2 not a combo guard so Lucious backed up by Bubu or Long will take all the PG minutes.

Does he move Babb to the 3 putting Clyburn or 2 year starter Ejim back on the bench?
If so the guy that loses the most minutes would be Niang. Not sure that's a good thing.

Now if he was willing to sit a year he'd be a perfect fit the following year with a roster full of FR and SOPHs.

It will be interesting to see but I do thinking the staffs #1 priority is to sign another big. Only having Gibson and Booker is way too thin IMO.

 

[Cincyclone]

I thought it was because he was on track to graduate. I thought there was something that if you go to graduate program that isn't offered or something that you can play immediately.

the article says he's trying to move up his timetable to graduate in 3 years. He's taking 23 hours now and would finish over the summer. Which means he won't be here over the summer. My question is how does he fit? He's a 2 not a combo guard so Lucious backed up by Bubu or Long will take all the PG minutes. Does he move Babb to the 3 putting Clyburn or 2 year starter Ejim back on the bench?If so the guy that loses the most minutes would be Niang. Not sure that's a good thing. Now if he was willing to sit a year he'd be a perfect fit the following year with a roster full of FR and SOPHs. It will be interesting to see but I do thinking the staffs #1 priority is to sign another big. Only having Gibson and Booker is way too thin IMO.

How about this lineup:

PG- Lucious
SG- Lockett
SF- Babb
SF/PF- Clyburn
C- Gibson

Back ups would be Ejim and McGee getting the most minutes, followed by Booker, Bubu, and Niang. That's a damn good rotation.

 

[ISUonthemove]

Sounds like it. With one more to fill, the following are my preferences based on the limited knowledge we have at this time:

1. Oriakhi
2. Pelle
3. McKay
4. Sanchez
5. Lancona

No offense, but Pelle and Sanchez should be the number 1 and 2 gets, out of that list.

 

[longtimeclone]

How about this lineup:

PG- Lucious
SG- Lockett
SF- Babb
SF/PF- Clyburn
C- Gibson

Back ups would be Ejim and McGee getting the most minutes, followed by Booker, Bubu, and Niang. That's a damn good rotation.

If Clyburn had to sit out some major minutes do you think we could still get the same offensive production? I also think we might be a little soft defensively on the low post.
These are the only concerns I have but I feel that lineup with those backups could run a pretty fast tempo of offensive. If we do go pretty fast Clyburn sitting out a lot of minutes might be moot point.

 

[Cincyclone]

How about this lineup: PG- LuciousSG- LockettSF- BabbSF/PF- ClyburnC- Gibson Back ups would be Ejim and McGee getting the most minutes, followed by Booker, Bubu, and Niang. That's a damn good rotation.

If Clyburn had to sit out some major minutes do you think we could still get the same offensive production? I also think we might be a little soft defensively on the low post. These are the only concerns I have but I feel that lineup with those backups could run a pretty fast tempo of offensive. If we do go pretty fast Clyburn sitting out a lot of minutes might be moot point.

I think Clyburn will play 30ish minutes a game and lead the team in scoring.

 

[longtimeclone]

I think Clyburn will play 30ish minutes a game and lead the team in scoring.

Would you think Lockett would be the #2 in scoring then? Maybe being pretty close with Lucious/Gibson.

If Clyburn does end up in foul trouble I just want to know where the points will come from, but that could be the point when we run or turn up the tempo because we would be so deep.

 

[Cincyclone]

I think Clyburn will play 30ish minutes a game and lead the team in scoring.

Would you think Lockett would be the #2 in scoring then? Maybe being pretty close with Lucious/Gibson. If Clyburn does end up in foul trouble I just want to know where the points will come from, but that could be the point when we run or turn up the tempo because we would be so deep.

Lockett could definitely be a big scoring threat. Don't forget about Ejim too. If he improves his shooting he could definitely be a double figures scoring type guy. I'll also be interested to see how Babb improves offensively. I don't think we'll struggle to score too much.

 

[BigBake]

I do think you bring up a good point. Not sure I'd really want 7 seniors on the team next year or not.... unless of course we get to the final four or something.

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If it gets you back to the dance...you do it. Don't worry about 2013-14 so dang much.

 

[acgclone]

Our scoring will look so much different this year, because we'll actually have a PG to facilitate an offense and a fast break. I would predict we'll score far more points in transition compared with this year. Guys like Babb, Ejim, Booker, Clyburn and Percy (Lockett too) would benefit from this.

Overall, I see our defense being much better also. I think we'll run and press more, and I see more rotation as a result.