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CyinCo

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1) Yes.
2) Yes. However, I'm just a little less optimistic than others on this board. If the kid is truly as good as some say he is, he'll get other offers and 4 years is a long time to stay committed to a school that - let's face it - hasn't been successful in recent years. Also, I'm troubled by the awkward position GMac would be in if the kid got hurt or didn't play to his potential and ended up as a low to mid-major recruit. Finally, I'm a little weary with regard to recruitment of 14 year-olds by any coach. I just think that age is too young to make significant life decisions such as the decision to choose one's collegiate education. However, I realize the hand that we are dealt. Other coaches are offering kids early, to our coaches have to do it as well to stay ahead of the curve. I hope the Staten commitment works out, that he can be a top 50 or so player, and that he keeps a firm commitment to the Cyclones. But I realize that four years is a long time, and a lot can happen in that time that would change things.

Fair enough?

I still don't get it. You sound like you are contradicting yourself. We have him committed now and think he might dump us to go elsewhere if he gets a better offer. Not much we can do about that. We've done all we can including getting a verbal. At the same time, you are saying we shouldn't have offered him in case he doesn't blow up or gets hurt. Well, we can't predict the future 100% but I'm sure a lot of thought went into this offer.

Sounds like you want a no-risk situation. There isn't one. You have be to willing gamble some unless you are Duke, Kansas, or UNC.
 

kucyclone

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I'm not saying that I don't like us offering him Every coach is now doing it, so we have to offer good players in our back-yard early. I understand that completely. I just don't like anyone offering him. He's 14. I just wish there was a rule in place to protect kids that young. There is no need for their recruitment to start that early. However, under the rules we have, this is a nice pickup if it works out over the next four years.
 

StLouisClone

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I'm not saying that I don't like us offering him Every coach is now doing it, so we have to offer good players in our back-yard early. I understand that completely. I just don't like anyone offering him. He's 14. I just wish there was a rule in place to protect kids that young. There is no need for their recruitment to start that early. However, under the rules we have, this is a nice pickup if it works out over the next four years.

Protect them from what?
 

Knownothing

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I just wish there was a rule in place to protect kids that young.

Parent anyone????? I am pretty sure Wesley is not an orphan.

Also protect them from going to college on a full ride scholly and playing basketball. I see no downside.
 

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Free college education. Free higher education is the bain of our society. Save the children!!

Perhaps what he is getting at is the fact that a 9th grader may not be in the best position to make a decison on where they would like to pursue their higher education quite yet.
 

Knownothing

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Perhaps what he is getting at is the fact that a 9th grader may not be in the best position to make a decison on where they would like to pursue their higher education quite yet.

So what. If all else fails he will get a great education for free. It's not like he joined the Marines and has to go fight a war because of something he did that young.
 

HILLCYD

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So what. If all else fails he will get a great education for free. It's not like he joined the Marines and has to go fight a war because of something he did that young.

Will he if he isn't happy where he ends up going?

I have purposely stayed out of this thread until now, and I guess I wish I would have just stayed out. That being said, a kid committing anywhere, or a school accepting and recruiting a kid that age, is stupid/crazy/ridiculous.

This is of coures just my opinion.
 

terryleebr

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So what. If all else fails he will get a great education for free. It's not like he joined the Marines and has to go fight a war because of something he did that young.

So you're saying that committing to the Marines is worse than making a committment to EIU?
 

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1) Yes.
2) Yes. However, I'm just a little less optimistic than others on this board. If the kid is truly as good as some say he is, he'll get other offers and 4 years is a long time to stay committed to a school that - let's face it - hasn't been successful in recent years. Also, I'm troubled by the awkward position GMac would be in if the kid got hurt or didn't play to his potential and ended up as a low to mid-major recruit. Finally, I'm a little weary with regard to recruitment of 14 year-olds by any coach. I just think that age is too young to make significant life decisions such as the decision to choose one's collegiate education. However, I realize the hand that we are dealt. Other coaches are offering kids early, to our coaches have to do it as well to stay ahead of the curve. I hope the Staten commitment works out, that he can be a top 50 or so player, and that he keeps a firm commitment to the Cyclones. But I realize that four years is a long time, and a lot can happen in that time that would change things.

Fair enough?


Kucyclone, at least this thread is adding to your credits! My oldest still in school is in 5th grade, I would be happy to know tomorrow he could attend ISU without me having to pay for it!
 

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Yes, that is Wesley. And yes, he is with Bill Self. How many other kids does Bill Self recruit before they played a game in high school? Not many.:wink:
 

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Yes, that is Wesley. And yes, he is with Bill Self. How many other kids does Bill Self recruit before they played a game in high school? Not many.:wink:

Why Bill Self!? Why!? How could you endanger this kid like that!? NOOOooooOOOoooOOOOoooooO!

(jokes)
 

johnsonjj

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I like the thought of having point guards that aren't just one dimensional, so the other team has to guard them hard (Yes I still can see the look in Jacque Vaughn's eyes as those 3's rained in from the PG he never thought would shot them!) I also like the thought of a PG with size, I assume Wesley will either grow into a big PG or a good 2-guard with great handles) with the option coming of the bench of a Tyrone Lue-ish waterbug quick change of pace.
 

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Thanks cys_av8r for being another voice of reason. Would you really want a coach like Calipari or Kelvin Sampson calling your 14-year-old child every week? That's a little shady.

Also, Bill Self takes a picture like that with literally every single kid that comes to his camp.

And what are the credits good for?
 

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Just to let you all know. Wesley Staten comes with something else. A best friend named Perry Ellis. Right now Ellis is projected to be a top 10 2012 player. He is about 6-7 to 6-9 depending on who you talk to. Staten lived with Ellis for the summer and play on the same AAU squad. So hopefully we are recruiting Ellis as well. Every big time school in the country is also recruiting Ellis.

Little stuff on Ellis in case anybody is interested, and yes, everybody is recruiting him.

VYPE - Freshman Phenom
 

ce1

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More and more sounds like this guy is LEGIT... I'm guessing it will be hard to get him away from Kansas...

Don't sell Wichita State short, either. They've done a pretty good job of recruiting Wichita talent that is NBA caliber over the years, and the basketball program at WSU is the top sport draw in the city. Like HB and ISU, i'm certain they'll be on his short list.
 

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When you say its harmful for a kid to commit at a young age you make it sound like he has to. Look at HB, the kid has had an offer for basically his entire HS career yet he dosnt feel the need to commit anywhere. No kid has to commit anywhere when they are that young they are just given the opportunity. There dosnt really need to be a rule against it, becasuse no one is forcing anyone to do anything!