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tigershoops31

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Good luck this year with Coach Chizek. I personally feel you let the best coach you've had since Earl Bruce go. It sure remains a big, big question mark why anyone thinks Coach Chizek will be any better. He has a lot of holes to fill on defense and it will take him several years to get back to respectability IMHO.

We'll see how "bad" the decision was soon enough. I'm sure from a Hawk perspective Mac was amazing since we owned you for a while there.

That's what fans is :biggrin9gp:.

Hawkeyes sure is dumb with grammar :wink0st:
 

jbhtexas

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Good luck this year with Coach Chizek. I personally feel you let the best coach you've had since Earl Bruce go. It sure remains a big, big question mark why anyone thinks Coach Chizek will be any better. He has a lot of holes to fill on defense and it will take him several years to get back to respectability IMHO.

ISU hired a new coach because our AD felt that the FB team shouldn't have a bunch of holes and shouldn't be in a state where it requires several years to get back to respectability...
 
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One of my life philosophies is "if you don't want it, don't try and take it away from me". The other side of that is, just because you want it, don't try to force it on me.

Why wouldn't it go in the optional package so that the folks that want it can get it, but the ones that don't want it, don't have to pay for it?
 

HILLCYD

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It is going to come as a huge surprise to the Big 10 that everyone's lives don't revolve around their over-rated, unable to count conference.
 

Cyclone62

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It is going to come as a huge surprise to the Big 10 that everyone's lives don't revolve around their over-rated, unable to count conference.

Oh, they can count, but they just don't know what number comes after ten, since they run out of fingers.
 

D UP Clones

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Pretty interesting that Cyclone fans are monitoring this. As a Hawk fan I'm not about to pay MediaCom an additional $1.10 for the Big Ten network. I'm simply going to change to Direct TV with all my services. I suspect there are a lot of Hawkeye fans that feel the same way. There is nothing sacred about MediaCom and the service the provide. If I were a Cyclone, I wouldn't want to pay a penny for a Big Ten network, and as a Hawkeye I wouldn't pay for a Big Twelve network.

That's what fans is :biggrin9gp:

Good luck this year with Coach Chizek. I personally feel you let the best coach you've had since Earl Bruce go. It sure remains a big, big question mark why anyone thinks Coach Chizek will be any better. He has a lot of holes to fill on defense and it will take him several years to get back to respectability IMHO.


The reason you believe this is due to your bias and the usual Hawk fan belief that there is no way ISU has more talent than Iowa or even equal talent. A poorly coached ISU team gave Iowa all they wanted on their home field last year and showed very similar talent.

And don't give me the instate rivalry bit. It doesn't fly. ISU has more than held their own with Iowa in the last decade.

PS I don't care about your big ten wins and if Meyer and the offense is clicking early this year, Iowa may be in big trouble in Ames. The question mark is whether McFarland and Bolt are legit quality coordinators. If they are, I like ISU's chances. Iowa has a ton of holes to fill and some average at best players littering the field.
 

ISUFANATIC1973

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I am the chair of our local cable television commission and we have Mediacom. I understand why Mediacom is against putting the Big 10 sports channel in the basic tier. Everyone has to pay even if you don't want the coverage. That is a big problem with some of the channels that are there now. The other issue is how many subscribers really want the channel. Sounds like a small percentage to me. Sometimes a channel appears in the basic tier because they pay to have it their. This is not the case in this situation.
 

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The reason you believe this is due to your bias and the usual Hawk fan belief that there is no way ISU has more talent than Iowa or even equal talent. A poorly coached ISU team gave Iowa all they wanted on their home field last year and showed very similar talent.

And don't give me the instate rivalry bit. It doesn't fly. ISU has more than held their own with Iowa in the last decade.

PS I don't care about your big ten wins and if Meyer and the offense is clicking early this year, Iowa may be in big trouble in Ames. The question mark is whether McFarland and Bolt are legit quality coordinators. If they are, I like ISU's chances. Iowa has a ton of holes to fill and some average at best players littering the field.

I believe we both have our bias. I really, really do not believe that over all ISU currently has as much talent as Iowa. On the other hand, when Mac beat Iowa 5 times in a row I thought ISU had matched Iowa's talent, exceeded Iowa's intensity, and were often out coached by Mac's teams.

I never gave you the in state rivalry bit, but it does enter into the equation; both ways!!!

Yes, Iowa may have trouble in Ames this year. No doubt, especially if Bret Meyer has a great game and Blythe in on his game. On the other hand, if Iowa's offensive line clicks and you cannot stop our running backs; game over IMHO. We'll see. I would put money on the Hawks, but that is probably my bias. Any takers ?
 

AirWalke

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Oh, they can count, but they just don't know what number comes after ten, since they run out of fingers.

Ba ZING!

Personally, I think the Iowa game should be a great barometer for the rest of the year for ISU. If Iowa man-handles NIU and Syracuse in their first two games (and for some reason, every dynasty I've started in NCAA 08 always has them 1-1 going into the ISU game...)... then playing Iowa close or beating them bodes very well for the rest of the season. Some of the young talent they played last year have another year under their belts, and if some of the breaks went their way last year, their record would've been more along the lines of 9-4.

And yes, I would love to pay a dollar extra for a Big 12 network, but only because we get limited TV coverage as it is. Big Ten fans are used to seeing their games on ESPN, so the idea of paying more for a service they've always gotten with their basic cable package is a bit foreign for them.
 

Wesley

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Guess 6 games a week extra for a month is not worth $1.10. That is the value of a Big 19 game - less than 6 cents a game. Cheap people in eastern Iowa.
 

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Ok, I just thought of this.. I LOVE the big10 network.

I hate it when they preempt the fox shows to put on an iowa baskebtall game. Now with all those games moving to the big10 network, I never miss another fox show! Way to go big 10!
 

CrossCyed

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When the Big 12 comes out with their own network, we'll be a lot more concerned with how this went down.
 

isucy86

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Guess Who Owns DIRECTV?

...As a Hawk fan I'm not about to pay MediaCom an additional $1.10 for the Big Ten network. I'm simply going to change to Direct TV with all my services.

Who Owns DIRECTV? News Corp.
Who Owns FOX TV? News Corp.
Who is the Big 10's partner in the Big 10 TV Network? FOX Sports

Sure DIRECTV is going to offer the Big 10 Network at no additional cost (at least initially). Its a win/win:
  • If fans are PO'ed at their cable company for not picking up the Big 10 Network they'll switch to DIRECTV. Money in News Corps pocket.
  • If Mediacom, Cable Vision, Comcast, etc buckle and offer the Big 10 Network under the basic package, again money in News Corps pocket.
My guess is News Corp is a bigger winner if you switch. I'd also bet that your DIRECTV bill will go up a couple dollars/month in the next couple of years. Especially if the cable company's don't cave on this issue.

I'm "pro-business", but the FCC has allowed way too much concentration within the media sector. News Corp, NBC, Disney and a few others control way to much of the print & electronic communications.

When I lived outside Iowa- I didn't blink once to pay $5/mo for the FOX Sports pack in order that I could catch half a dozen Cyclone FB/Women Hoops games. Even now I'd probably pay a couple bucks to purchase the Big 10 Network.

A while back the FCC was pushing for ala carte cable- where consumers could purchase only the channels they want. I'd love to see that day. I know I only watch about 15-20 channels of the 75 I get with mediacom and I'd probably only be willing to pay for half.
 

ISUFan22

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Something I have not seen here that will surely burn Hawk fans...

Supposedly, no longer will Mediacom be able to play the replays of Hawk games on Channel 22. The Big 10 Network will have rights to that, from what I heard someplace (can't find it now) yesterday.

So if Mediacom and the Big 10 can't strike a deal - not only will Hawk fans miss a few games - they won't be able to watch the replays!
 

HILLCYD

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When the Big 12 comes out with their own network, we'll be a lot more concerned with how this went down.

I have Directv so I will get it with out any issues and will continue being a happy customer. Cable sucks.
 

kmac

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What is unfortunate is that DirecTV only agreed to this deal because they want to use it as a marketing tool to club cable with. They will start to advertise big time in the big 10 viewing area as the we get closer to the start of the college season, especially in Iowa where fans are directly affected with the Iowa/Syracuse game.

I hope Comcast and Mediacom have the guts to hang on and lose some subscribers!!

Now that the Big 10 has DirecTV, they know the big time pressure cable is under - they will stick to their guns on this.
 

cytech

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What is unfortunate is that DirecTV only agreed to this deal because they want to use it as a marketing tool to club cable with. They will start to advertise big time in the big 10 viewing area as the we get closer to the start of the college season, especially in Iowa where fans are directly affected with the Iowa/Syracuse game.

I hope Comcast and Mediacom have the guts to hang on and lose some subscribers!!

Now that the Big 10 has DirecTV, they know the big time pressure cable is under - they will stick to their guns on this.

Yeah but I seriously doubt that the btn can survive on just directv's customer base. They need dish and the major players in the cable industry. If dish and the major cable companies stick to their guns, either the btn will fail, or they will have no choice but to cave in and put it on a sports tier
 

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Re: Guess Who Owns DIRECTV?

isucy86;158385A while back the FCC was pushing for ala carte cable- where consumers could purchase only the channels they want. I'd love to see that day. I know I only watch about 15-20 channels of the 75 I get with mediacom and I'd probably only be willing to pay for half.[/quote said:
Well, I think it's a good idea, but frankly it would make me sad. Honestly, what channels do you watch now that you would be willing to pay separately for? For me, I know that I watch ESPN on occasion and I watch HGTV, Discovery, & TLC every so often. I would miss those channels, but I wouldn't pay for them (I really don't watch ESPN very much!). I would probably pay for local network channels and, and, and, I can't think of any other channels. But as a package deal, I see some things I really like, some things that would be nice to have, and some things that I don't want--but the total value of a package deal seems worth it (and, more importantly, worth it to my wife!).
 

isucy86

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Re: Guess Who Owns DIRECTV?

Well, I think it's a good idea, but frankly it would make me sad. Honestly, what channels do you watch now that you would be willing to pay separately for? For me, I know that I watch ESPN on occasion and I watch HGTV, Discovery, & TLC every so often. I would miss those channels, but I wouldn't pay for them (I really don't watch ESPN very much!). I would probably pay for local network channels and, and, and, I can't think of any other channels. But as a package deal, I see some things I really like, some things that would be nice to have, and some things that I don't want--but the total value of a package deal seems worth it (and, more importantly, worth it to my wife!).

I agree there are few channels I'd pay for. The list includes: local channels, USA, FX, Spike, TNT, ESPN, ESPN2, CNBC & DSC. There are other channels I might purchase if the price was right. The winner might be the pay channels- I'd subscribe to HBO or Showtime, etc before most channels above other than the ESPN's.
 

kmac

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Yeah but I seriously doubt that the btn can survive on just directv's customer base. They need dish and the major players in the cable industry. If dish and the major cable companies stick to their guns, either the btn will fail, or they will have no choice but to cave in and put it on a sports tier

cytech, I agree if Dish, Mediacom and Comcast can stick together and not give in to the BTN's tier and pricing demands, then the BTN will be forced to be reasonable. If the Dish decides to join DirecTV, the pressure would then increase greatly for Mediacom and Comcast. The Dish has a history of using these tactics too - they did a similar thing in Denver with the Altitude sports network.