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Don't worry... When a Hawk fan speaks the truth they must be banned because it hurts too much hearing it from someone else. . But when a Cyclone fan says the same thing they are a good point.. But still wrong.
I just got back from a meeting with Pollard. I showed him one card. I asked him to tell me what it was. He said, "That is a spade." I was holding the ace of spades.
Yes, but some people really don't have the money to give up even if they wanted to, or buy season tickets. I think that really goes for a lot of people around.
In a strictly public forum, all of the public has equal access. This site can ban anyone for any reason and no questions asked. It's owned by a private company. In my mind a truly public forum is owned by the public much as a park is owned by the public.
Hey, you can't do that to our pledges! Only we can do that to our pledges!!:yes:
Okay, there are two different types of "public forums" and he didn't mean the government/economic type like you're meaning it to be.
You don't have to be a privately owned company to get a piece of message board software you didn't write yourself. They all have a "ban" requirement in them.
You are just going off the semantics of what he said. If he said "internet message board" I am doubt you would have said anything at all.
Anybody can be banned from any message board on the internet. The company I'm with is public, but nobody but the administrators on our message board decide who to ban. No shareholders are taking a vote, because none of them give a ****.
So only people who have the money available to buy season tickets should be listen to?
So you're going to alienate the poor farmer 15 miles outside of Ames who's been a die hard Cyclone fan for his whole life, but has never had the money to buy football game tickets for his family because he's too busy making sure they can eat everyday, while ensuring his farm stays in business?
I will agree he should not of email the AD... But "those people" ??? People that like the team but can't afford stuff on their own like tickets because of college, job, life in general???
Yeah they have no room to complain for the most part... But you can't discredit them as fans and POTENTIAL supporters.
It's as if people that can't afford tickets are viewed as either a different race, religion, or sexual orrientation and that we can't accept them as a real fan.
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Frak said something to Hawk about jumping into the middle of things. Hawk said he didn't care because it's a public forum and he can say what he wants. I pointed out that it isn't a public forum in the strict sense of the word because it is not owned by the public but it is a private company. As a private company it can ban anyone for any reason (or no reason) at any time without explanation. That is not a strict public forum in my mind.
All message board software on the net has a ban feature. Any admin on any board, regardless of who owns the company, can ban people. There's no distinction between a public and private company banning people on a message board either.
People can be banned in a public forumn too for breaking rules associated with that board and forumn.. So what was your point???
Unless a mod comes in and says he is out of line and needs to pipe down, I don't see what you are getting at.
I am not saying they aren't good fans...I am saying they really don't have a lot of room to email the AD and complain and expect a lot of appreciation for their criticism.
If they happen to actually have a good point/suggestion, you should listen regardless of whether they give you money or not.
You guys can fight it out on who is more of a fan.
My only issue is why would you forward this to a radio station? What was to be gained? We have a student calling out the AD of a school that he doesn't attend? I have read that this wasn't for publicity but what was the reason then?
While Pollard could have handled it more professionally, if someone sent me an e-mail about how my team at work was doing and telling me that I and my employees should be replaced, I'm not sure I would have been as professional as JP.
My only issue is why would you forward this to a radio station? What was to be gained? We have a student calling out the AD of a school that he doesn't attend? I have read that this wasn't for publicity but what was the reason then?
While Pollard could have handled it more professionally, if someone sent me an e-mail about how my team at work was doing and telling me that I and my employees should be replaced, I'm not sure I would have been as professional as JP.
True, what I'm talking about are semantics, however, Hawk was hanging his hat on this being a public forum so he claims that he is free to jump into the Cyclone family discussion and take sides. I was just pointing out that it's not that public of a forum. It's a Cyclone family discussion group!:yes:
Seems to me that maybe his parents should have sent the letter. If in fact he's going to school in Milwaukee, how many games has he attended this year?
Personally, I thought Pollards response was quite benign, considering the level of stupidity in some of the points the kid made.
The kid is frustrated, he chose to vent via a ***** fest to the AD without offering any viable solutions. Sounds like a typical college student.
I'd be embarrassed if he were my kid.
If we all wasted our time talking semantics when we actually knew what the person intended, nobody would get anywhere.
