add Minnesota and Purdue to the schedule

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have you really heard that ISU was the worst team on Iowa's schedule before? This sounds made up

You have to realize ISU has only played 3 games and only one of them was a bad team (granted one was an FCS and the other was a mediocre team). If situations were reversed it would be said. The "Super Bowl" thing has been said every single year ISU has beaten Iowa since the streak was broekn
 

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I'm not understanding how fans think Iowa has an easy schedule.

Just glancing at it, you can see that it is not easy. These are teams likely to go to a bowl game on Iowa's schedule

Northern IL-may go undefeated
Michigan State-very tough
Ohio State-national title contender
Northwestern
Michigan
Wisconsin
Nebraska

Big12 may have some exciting pass heavy attacks but the Big10 clearly is more of a grind. Much better OL/DL players outside of Texas or maybe OU in Big 10.

Are you serious? They might have the worst offense in America. Iowa's second half of their schedule is significantly harder than their first half. They won't play a good team until Ohio State.
 

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Are you serious? They might have the worst offense in America. Iowa's second half of their schedule is significantly harder than their first half. They won't play a good team until Ohio State.

It took many posts over numerous threads, but we finally agree on something
 

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It took many posts over numerous threads, but we finally agree on something

Iowa's schedule is a lot tougher than last year that's for sure. Next year is stupid easy though. I still think ISU will end up with a better SOS than Iowa this year though
 

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interesting scores this season?

Ohio St 40
Buffalo 20

Baylor 70
Buffalo 13

Buffalo---who blew out UConn Saturday

UConn-- who almost BEAT MICHIGAN
UConn-- who got smoked by Buffalo and TOWSON STATE


Okla 35-21 @ Notre Dame

Same Notre Dame who beat Mich St

Big Ten isn't as wonderful as some Hawkeye koolaid drinkers think
 

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Iowa's schedule is a lot tougher than last year that's for sure. Next year is stupid easy though. I still think ISU will end up with a better SOS than Iowa this year though

ISU's SOS will most likely stay above Iowa's for the rest of the year.

The average Sagarin ranking of the remaining teams left on each team's schedule:

ISU: 36
Iowa: 45
 

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interesting scores this season?

Ohio St 40
Buffalo 20

Baylor 70
Buffalo 13

Buffalo---who blew out UConn Saturday

UConn-- who almost BEAT MICHIGAN
UConn-- who got smoked by Buffalo and TOWSON STATE


Okla 35-21 @ Notre Dame

Same Notre Dame who beat Mich St

Big Ten isn't as wonderful as some Hawkeye koolaid drinkers think

It's a reflection of the OOC SOS.

Current SOS rankings by conference:

SEC
PAC 12
Big 12
ACC
Big 10
 

Cyclonestate78

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You really don't want to compare resume's do you? I know you're combating a troll but this subject will not end well for you.

One can't hide from history. Is Iowa's history better overall? Sure. I just always find it so interesting that a lot of iowa fans celebrate their history like they are Michigan. Unfortunately this idea that Iowa has some kind of elite football history is an indication that most hok fans don't have a clue or haven't been hok fans for very long(bandwagon jumpers). It's as if they believe Iowa football didn't exist prior to Hayden Fry with the only exceptions being Nile Kinnick and some bogus claim to a national championship that the NCAA does not recognize as legitimate.

If you asked a group of 100 iowa fans if the hoks had ever had 19 consecutive losing seasons I would guess that about 80% to 90% would say "No". They would be wrong.

These iowa fans should also keep in mind that during those black hole years of iowa football they refused to play ISU. Had the game been played during these years the overall head to head record would be much closer then it is currently.
 

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One can't hide from history. Is Iowa's history better overall? Sure. I just always find it so interesting that a lot of iowa fans celebrate their history like they are Michigan. Unfortunately this idea that Iowa has some kind of elite football history is an indication that most hok fans don't have a clue or haven't been hok fans for very long(bandwagon jumpers). It's as if they believe Iowa football didn't exist prior to Hayden Fry with the only exceptions being Nile Kinnick and some bogus claim to a national championship that the NCAA does not recognize as legitimate.

If you asked a group of 100 iowa fans if the hoks had ever had 19 consecutive losing seasons I would guess that about 80% to 90% would say "No". They would be wrong.

These iowa fans should also keep in mind that during those black hole years of iowa football they refused to play ISU. Had the game been played during these years the overall head to head record would be much closer then it is currently.

But....but....orange bowl!!! Legends & Leaders!!! Ricky Stanzi!!!
 

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One can't hide from history. Is Iowa's history better overall? Sure. I just always find it so interesting that a lot of iowa fans celebrate their history like they are Michigan. Unfortunately this idea that Iowa has some kind of elite football history is an indication that most hok fans don't have a clue or haven't been hok fans for very long(bandwagon jumpers). It's as if they believe Iowa football didn't exist prior to Hayden Fry with the only exceptions being Nile Kinnick and some bogus claim to a national championship that the NCAA does not recognize as legitimate.

If you asked a group of 100 iowa fans if the hoks had ever had 19 consecutive losing seasons I would guess that about 80% to 90% would say "No". They would be wrong.

These iowa fans should also keep in mind that during those black hole years of iowa football they refused to play ISU. Had the game been played during these years the overall head to head record would be much closer then it is currently.

Depends upon the age of the fan. Those of us older than 35 or so are well aware of the history and Iowa's place in it. There's an extreme element of the fan base that believes the only thing separating Iowa from the likes of Ohio State is a coach who will "try harder" or whatever.

Iowa's football history is definitely not elite. Some periods of good to excellent, with individual years where Iowa is very good. But years where things don't go right or where recruiting classes don't pan out effect teams like Iowa much more than the blue bloods of college FB.

Iowa's last 30 years have been very good (relatively speaking). Fortunate to have two good coaches who stuck around for a long time. If Hawks get 5 more conference titles in next 30 years, I'll have enjoyed a good life as a Hawkeye fan.
 

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Are you serious? They might have the worst offense in America. Iowa's second half of their schedule is significantly harder than their first half. They won't play a good team until Ohio State.

MSU will be a bowl team and yes, they have QB issues but quite possibly have a better defense than any team in the Big12. They're a very strong and physical team that seems to be struggling with execution on offense. It looks as if Iowa plays them next week.

There is no Ohio State caliber team on ISU's schedule unless Oklahoma improves dramatically. Texas is a bit down but could rebound by end of season.
 
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Depends upon the age of the fan. Those of us older than 35 or so are well aware of the history and Iowa's place in it. There's an extreme element of the fan base that believes the only thing separating Iowa from the likes of Ohio State is a coach who will "try harder" or whatever.

Iowa's football history is definitely not elite. Some periods of good to excellent, with individual years where Iowa is very good. But years where things don't go right or where recruiting classes don't pan out effect teams like Iowa much more than the blue bloods of college FB.

Iowa's last 30 years have been very good (relatively speaking). Fortunate to have two good coaches who stuck around for a long time. If Hawks get 5 more conference titles in next 30 years, I'll have enjoyed a good life as a Hawkeye fan.

This is a post I can get behind from an Iowa fan. Hey... as an ISU fan I understand ISU's history when it comes to football and it isn't pretty. I don't shy away from it... because it makes the average results of Danny Mac and Paul Rhoads look pretty dang good and it builds hope that ISU could become a decent program in the future. I think fans of programs with mediocre to well below mediocre results historically enjoy each victory a little more, enjoy each bowl game a little more, etc...

ISU's win over #2 Okie State is a game that ISU fans will never forget because it isn't often that ISU has beaten a team ranked in the top 10 let alone a top 2 ranked team. Similarly... Iowa fans were pumped to go play in the Orange Bowl because it isn't every year they play in a BCS game.

On the other side of the coin you have spoiled fans like those from Nebraska, Michigan, and Notre Dame. They have all recently had struggles and their fans have been on the ledge and ready to jump. Being spoiled with too much success sure seems like it takes the enjoyment out of it. Going 10-2 is something to celebrate but the fans of these programs are on suicide watch with results like that.