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Agreed with the above poster. Absolutely do not want Golden here.

In fact, I really hope we don't hire anyone moving down from their last stop.
 

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Agreed with the above poster. Absolutely do not want Golden here.

In fact, I really hope we don't hire anyone moving down from their last stop.

I'm sure there are coaches that think of Iowa State the exact same way...

Now I'm sad.
 

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I agree that we don't need a "gimmick" type of offense. Cyvader has it right. Be a power running offense (Stanford style). I watched the Stanford-Washington game last night. Stanford's offensive style would cause quite a few of the Big 12 teams to have a problem defending it.

As the number of football programs (searching for a new head coach) gets longer, the more difficult it will be for Iowa State to hire a good replacement head coach, with experience. I think that it becomes more likely that if the decision is made to cut ties with CPR, we will likely find ourselves back to the search for an up and comiing coordinator.(with aspirations to be a head coach). After giving this a fair amount of thought, I would be reasonably excited for the administration to take a hard look at Scott Frost. This brings me back to thinking that a Stanford style offense might be the way for Iowa State to go. My brother (a semi-connected Nebraska guy) was over for the TCU game. He said that the latest rumor (at UNL) was that Scott Frost was not sure if he ever wanted to coach at Nebraska because he fully understood what a "fish-bowl" that would be. He has (apparently) stated that he would give serious consideration to coaching at KSU or ISU. Food for thought......

While I agree with CyVader and BigSag but I think it is premature to compare our offensive line to the Stanford offensive line. I agree it would be nice to get there and to a Pro Style attack as a way to recruit players that are not experienced in the spread offense and it gives us a way to give us any kind of advantage in recruiting(if that is possible right now) since there are tons of spread teams out there.

I liken it back to the 90's when Troy Davis was running the ball 40 times a game - everyone on the field knew it was coming - but we had 5 guys that would put a helmet on a body and "make it personal"
 

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Forget a gimmick. I tweeted Saturday that our current team is built for a certain style of play and that is power running. That needs a qb like lanning who is a bull-reminds me of arnaud. Put a rb to each side and run run run mixed in with some shots to our big wrs. Keep clock moving, string drives, wear defense down. The fact that we ignored this through over half our season is depressing. I'm not saying lanning is "better" than Sam. Better is relative. He is a better fit for our current team build and in anything to maximize success you need to play to your strengths. We have not done that. Can you inagine kstate with a qb and 2 rbs like we have? They would grind out 10 wins a year in the big12 playing the same schedule as us.
While I agree talent wise we are setup to run a more power run style (more of a power spread) I don't think that is the style Mangino really wants to run. That's why I don't think going to Lanning is great. He is farther from what Mangino wants.
 

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ISU pays more, and has better facilities top to bottom than Miami. I doubt Miami being open is cause for concern to ISU in 2015. This is not 1992 anymore.
 

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ISU pays more, and has better facilities top to bottom than Miami. I doubt Miami being open is cause for concern to ISU in 2015. This is not 1992 anymore.

I don't know about Miami's facilities, but ISU does not pay more. Miami pays not so well. And ISU pays even worse.
 

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ISU pays more, and has better facilities top to bottom than Miami. I doubt Miami being open is cause for concern to ISU in 2015. This is not 1992 anymore.

But they are in a large city in Florida, ISU is in a small city in Iowa. These are 17 year old kids remember.
 

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Texas
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At least 7 jobs open... and probably 6 of those are more attractive for coaches than Iowa State would be. Could be slim pickings this offseason

Probably 6? You really think N Texas is worth a probably? I'm half kidding. I wouldn't say Illinois quite yet..they might make a bowl and they were not picked to be very good this year.
 

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Add Miami to the list of tempting jobs open next season. Iowa State will fall a little farther down the list.
Sorry, I don't get the point of starting a thread on this...... You are now saying because of our lack of relevance we should just give up on getting a new coach, or at least one that matter. You say you are a fan, then you turn around an bash the program indirectly by throwing the pecking order crap, how does a new thread here help anything????
 

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Sorry, I don't get the point of starting a thread on this...... You are now saying because of our lack of relevance we should just give up on getting a new coach, or at least one that matter. You say you are a fan, then you turn around an bash the program indirectly by throwing the pecking order crap, how does a new thread here help anything????


Not sure how recognizing a pecking order is bashing the program in any way. That's just observing how things work.
 

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Not sure how recognizing a pecking order is bashing the program in any way. That's just observing how things work.
Opening another thread on the subject makes no sense to me.... Plus I don't understand how this is productive talk at all, each coaching option is situational anyway, just an annoying conversation that has plenty of threads about.....
 

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The buyout isn't the issue...it won't matter one bit if he's fired this year or after next year..we are talking a difference of $750,000 per year. It's nothing. The loss in ticket sales if CPR is here next year could equal a loss of $3-$4 million easy.

The other thing to consider is over half the assistants are in their final year of their two year contract.
 

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The buyout isn't the issue...it won't matter one bit if he's fired this year or after next year..we are talking a difference of $750,000 per year. It's nothing. The loss in ticket sales if CPR is here next year could equal a loss of $3-$4 million easy.

The other thing to consider is over half the assistants are in their final year of their two year contract.

CPR's buyout has to be paid in a lump sum of $750k x (# of years left on contract). He's signed through 2021. That's $4.5 million right there. So if ticket sales are a loss of $3-4 million...
 

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Miami fans are funny. They have a bunch of rich alumni and a lot of rich people in Miami but they don't donate to the AD or buy tickets but they will spend thousands of dollars to have airplanes fly around with Fire Coach Blah blah for every home game.
 

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I don't know about Miami's facilities, but ISU does not pay more. Miami pays not so well. And ISU pays even worse.

Miami fans are funny. They have a bunch of rich alumni and a lot of rich people in Miami but they don't donate to the AD or buy tickets but they will spend thousands of dollars to have airplanes fly around with Fire Coach Blah blah for every home game.

Danny Kannell (Sp?) was on Mike and Mike this morning BASHING Miami on the topic of facilities. He reiterated the same point Curt said - they don't have an on-campus stadium and they have to bus students to/from games, they don't upgrade their facilities (which are a joke) and they don't spend money to get the right head coach.

Even when you think about it, their Men's basketball coach is Jim Larrinaga (sp?) who has turned out to be a great hire with a low price tag.
 
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