Anyone else hearing that JP has already decided Prohm is coming back?

[Macloney]

And up until last year they had similar results. One bad year. One sweet 16. One ncaa upset in first round. 2 tourney titles.

Our fans are such great fans that they have actually quit watching the games to show what great fans they are.

Awesome.

 

[cycloneworld]

Already been discussed and agreed upon. The determination of his replacement is in progress with one leader in the clubhouse but they haven’t engraved the trophy.....yet

There is a near zero chance this is true. And even more unlikely is that this has leaked out.

 

[NWICY]

That would be more wins then the last two years combined. Honestly the only expectation for next year will be to lay the foundation and identity moving forward. If they win a total of 10 games next year it will be a major success.

Yep improvement through out the season, and a identity for the program of what they are trying to do. If we can get a .500 season next yr I'll be really happy. Fred went 16-16 his 1st yr and 3-13 in conference, but the thing I remember most was the attitude change in both the team and the fan base.

 

[Billups06]

And up until last year they had similar results. One bad year. One sweet 16. One ncaa upset in first round. 2 tourney titles.

The past two seasons are likely to go down as one of the worst two year stretches of Iowa State Basketball since the 1930’s (case could be made for one the worst four year stretches—would need to more accurately validate).

 

[jsb]

The past two seasons are likely to go down as one of the worst two year stretches of Iowa State Basketball since the 1930’s (case could be made for one the worst four year stretches—would need to more accurately validate).

Not disagreeing.

 

[Clonestarred]

There is a near zero chance this is true. And even more unlikely is that this has leaked out.

You are incorrect as folks do find out. See there are donors stepping up for both buyouts. Seems like you don’t get much info...oh well

 

[Havs]

He's likely gone.

 

[CycloneDaddy]

Why would the defending Big12 tournament champions coach get fired?

 

[Clonestarred]

Why would the defending Big12 tournament champions coach get fired?

Who knows but 5-27 in conference the last two years might have something to do with it

 

[Cyched]

There is a near zero chance this is true. And even more unlikely is that this has leaked out.

Pretty sure he’s a troll. Who apparently got allowed back.

 

[Havs]

Why would the defending Big12 tournament champions coach get fired?

Because no matter how much fun we have in Kansas City, it just doesn't matter that much when you lose in the first round of the NCAA tournament and then go sub-.500 for two years.

 

[BryceC]

The past two seasons are likely to go down as one of the worst two year stretches of Iowa State Basketball since the 1930’s (case could be made for one the worst four year stretches—would need to more accurately validate).

Not even close on 4 years. McD's tenure was a losing season each year. We had a 6 seed in the tourney in there.

 

[SCarolinaCy]

Everything that Prohm is saying is coming straight from what his PR and Atty are telling him to say. Same for Pollard. Prohm is gone.

 

[cycloneML]

There is a near zero chance this is true. And even more unlikely is that this has leaked out.

Why wouldn’t this be true? This is how the rest of the world works.

 

[CloneIce]

I have always supported, not defended CSP and every Cyclone team that has ever taken the court.

The results of the last 2 seasons have been unacceptable at the high major level. I just think people have to have some real perspective and expectations of the program. TWO Big 12 titles in over 20 years. Fred's teams were fun to watch, had conference tournament success, consistently sniffed the top 25 and never won the conference. Not once. Our storied basketball program has made it past the Sweet Sixteen in the real tournament exactly ONCE.

We have perspective. Our program is now historically bad. We are not meeting even the lowest possible expectations. I heard the same argument about our program expectations when McDermott was failing as coach. Guess what happened when he left and we hired a good fit for ISU?

Also, more perspective- winning the Big 12 is incredibly tough, there were final 4 teams that did not win the conference during KUs historic run those years. ISU fans do have perspective on our program, that’s why we consider that run very successful despite not winning the conference.

 

[Halincandenza]

Jackson and Javan Johnson are not Big 12 caliber players. They just aren’t. With Tre it is a height issue. With Javan it is more mental.

The only way this team gets back to the tournament is a high end 6-6 or 6-5 wing transfer.
You pair that with Bolton, Hunter, Foster and Hinson then “maybe” you can scratch the bubble. A lot of maybes in there.

But if you are starting Tre, Bolton, Hunter, Hinson and Foster then you will get out rebounded by 15 every night.

Jackson’s Height is not an issue.

 

[CloneIce]

And up until last year they had similar results. One bad year. One sweet 16. One ncaa upset in first round. 2 tourney titles.

Yes, and if we maintained the program at that level, and the failure of the last two seasons never happened, Prohm wouldn’t be losing his job. Don’t we all agree on that? What is confusing about this?

 

[Halincandenza]

I don't think CSP should keep his job. But I also think there were people around Ames who wanted him to fail from day one.

People were on Prohm's ass four months before he ever coached a game at ISU, one even took the trouble to write a snarky op-ed to the DMR that had nothing to do with his ability to coach basketball. And people will still occasionally bring that situation up in here if you know which rocks to look under, so you know it wasn't just one crank prof on campus. I've never seen that kind of deal with any coach anywhere before, despite it being a common approach taken with players all over the country.

Now, if they had won more, maybe that pissy sentiment would have evaporated. But given it was often only ever a bad half of basketball from getting brought up, I doubt it.

No one wanted him to fail

 

[jsb]

Yes, and if we maintained the program at that level, and the failure of the last two seasons never happened, Prohm wouldn’t be losing his job. Don’t we all agree on that? What is confusing about this?

I’m not saying any different.

 

[intrepid27]

I can guarantee you 1 if not 2 of those will not be here next year if Prohm is. That's first-hand.

I'm prepared for multiple players leaving after this season no matter what Prohm's status is.