Actually I have both.
Gary was sketch but not as bad, nothing close to Detroit, and no I am not talking right off the interstate, in town Gary. (needless to say I was in the wrong place.)
I just spent multiple days driving the back roads and main roads all over WVU, last month. Sketchy, but more hillbilly meth head sketchy, again sketchy in its own way, but not close to what I was in, in Detroit.
Detroit is so much more on another level. I cant even describe how bad it was and do it justice. I personally would have never stopped there, but I wasnt driving that night.
But it does sound like at least they are doing better...in the immediate downtown. It would be hard to do worse than what they had been doing.
But I have to stop talking about this, cuz people get mad when we get off the exact subject of the thread. Not like almost every thread hasnt gotten side tracked on random subjects for one reason or another.
I mean its nice that we see people that never give any input on the subject come in and actually comment and complain about being off subject. So at least we get them involved in some way.