Big 12 Expansion (new thread)

Three4Cy

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I misread your initial response. I think Surly's pic had:
East:
Baylor
Houston
ISU

WVA
CInci
UCF

West:
BYU
KU
KSU
OSU
TCU
TT

No doubt travel would stink for ISU but recruiting grounds sure would be fertile.

Great direct flight on Allegiant that goes to Houston on Thursday night, comes back on Sunday night. I'm in for a long weekend in Houston and some football.
 

aeroclone

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I'm sure I reflect the feelings of most now, just dang relieved that the B12 has expanded with the Angry 8 being at the core, remaining together. Going to the P12 with oSu made no sense to me as a K-State fan. Losing Farmeggedon to say nothing for the Ku rivalry would have been horrible. Now, we can look forward to stability, solid football, awesome basketball, and perhaps finding financials that are respectable.

I know I speak for most of us here when I say that I still hope and pray for the day we leave you behind to join the B1G. These new additions don't do much for me.
 

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SIAP - if this happens it would be hilarious!



I doubt there's any 6 team split where Texas could beat five New Big 12 teams.

You could give them KU and Texas Tech, they'd still have 3 other teams that have been just as good or better than them over the past decade or so.
 

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Hot take for KU...maybe you should have invested some $ in football facilities like the ENTIRE REST OF THE BIG 12 HAS for the past 10-15 years.

I guess the pro basketball team needed more luxury hotels and such. It's like they've just written off the idea they can make $$$ with football beyond what they get from the TV deal.
 

Cyforce

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I wish I could understand what the hell he's trying to say (mainly the second sentence):

“The facts are there’s most likely a scenario where when we do a new deal with a makeup where we likely can’t stay at the level we’re at.”

I was expecting a "then ..." portion.
The truth is KU is the drag on the conference that's in no small part responsible for the defections. By all rights they don't deserve what they're getting and the lack of reinvestment drives the point home.
 
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Rods79

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I wish I could understand what the hell he's trying to say (mainly the second sentence):

“The facts are there’s most likely a scenario where when we do a new deal with a makeup where we likely can’t stay at the level we’re at.”

I was expecting a "then ..." portion.

I think he’s saying that we’re not getting the same amount of money we used to get with the new media deal for this new conference.
 

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How about NO DIVISIONS, quad scheduling (3 pods of 4) and top 2 teams overall go to the CCG. I really, really do not like divisions and think that the old Big Xii divisions helped lead us into all of this mess.

That's not really how pods work... you partner with another pod each season and play a couple teams from the other two pods you are not partnered with. winners of the two pod groups play for the championship....

So if pods were:

1. ISU, KSU, KU
2. TT, HOU, OSU
3. BYU, TCU, Bay
4. UCF, WVU, Cinci

Then...

Pod 1&2 play, Pod 3&4 play (basically form a 1 yr div)

Next year

1&3, 2&4... etc.

So, you always end up with "div winners"playing a championship... but in the pod system the divisions are changing.
 

awd4cy

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I'm sure I reflect the feelings of most now, just dang relieved that the B12 has expanded with the Angry 8 being at the core, remaining together. Going to the P12 with oSu made no sense to me as a K-State fan. Losing Farmeggedon to say nothing for the Ku rivalry would have been horrible. Now, we can look forward to stability, solid football, awesome basketball, and perhaps finding financials that are respectable.
I still hope KU and ISU make it to the Big 10.
 

AlaCyclone

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That's not really how pods work... you partner with another pod each season and play a couple teams from the other two pods you are not partnered with. winners of the two pod groups play for the championship....

So if pods were:

1. ISU, KSU, KU
2. TT, HOU, OSU
3. BYU, TCU, Bay
4. UCF, WVU, Cinci

Then...

Pod 1&2 play, Pod 3&4 play (basically form a 1 yr div)

Next year

1&3, 2&4... etc.

So, you always end up with "div winners"playing a championship... but in the pod system the divisions are changing.
Hmmmm. I suppose that is better than hard coded divisions.

As it is, I like the way the Big Xii has done it with 10 teams and the ACC did it last year with 15 teams. I suppose the ACC was a one off, as I do believe there is a requirement to play everybody to have the top 2 make it like the Big Xii currently does?
 
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t-noah

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How about 11 conference games and one non-conference?

With Iowa, THAT would make the toughest schedule out there! :cool:
Not unless SEC and other Power conferences do same. SEC has a clear advantage (in a better record) with historically only scheduling 8 conference games per team. That might be changing, but until it does...

The Big 12 might have to stay at 9 (or heck even 10) per future TV contract revenue. But the smarter people involved in those negotiations will make that decision.