CFB needs to have a commissioner and the players need to have an equal seat at the table.
The dicey part is what happens to non revenue generating sports. I don't want womens bball to go away and I think it's cool IA added womens wrestling.
Big 12 Expansion (new thread)
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The dicey part is what happens to non revenue generating sports. I don't want womens bball to go away and I think it's cool IA added womens wrestling.
As part of the constitution, you could just say every school that signs up has to put x% of the fb revenue to nonrev sports. I mean, thats kind of how it works now.
I think theres solutions to all this, but you need a small group of leaders to whip all the semi rogue actors into line. And idk who that is. Sure aint the ncaa.
Maybe delaney teamed up with phil knight??? Idk.
Not sure what you mean by "DFW is catching up" to Houston. A couple of things regarding TCU and UH.
UH was considered "JUCO Tech" back in their SWC days as a commuter school (with mostly disinterested alums/students) with substandard academics compared to the rest of the conference. That label is still applicable to some extent but the gaps have been narrowed relative on campus resident students and academics. UH still has and always will have attendance and TV eyeball issues as a quasi commuter school in the middle of a metro area with competing pro sports. I disagree that UH has more upside than TCU and I will be disappointed if ISU is affiliated with UH in the same conference for the long term.
TCU's dynamics are obviously different as a highly regarded private academic institution and their small enrollment and alumni base. Compared to UH, TCU does have a marketing advantage as Fort Worth's (and Tarrant County's) home team and the "biggest game in town" despite their proximity to Arlington where the Cowboys play. TCU has not done a good job in marketing that "home team" advantage for football in terms of ticket pricing and other related promotions and their attendance continues to struggle despite playing in arguably the best stadium in the B12. TCU's small alumni base will always be a limiting factor for TV value (but likely higher than UH) but their value as a conference partner to the likes of ISU and OK State will continue to significantly exceed that of UH for the long term.
These things of last century are are well known. Although you’re overstating the “hometown” team aspect of TCU. It’s limited. Always has been. Which is why they struggle to draw. Is TCU really still well regarded? By TCU people, they are.
UH when good will be a bigger draw in Houston. They may not be liked more, but the thought of what used to be Cougar High competing for a playoff spot like Ok St was will draw better than TCU doing the same. TCU is a relic with limited upside imo
The thing I worry about Houston students and fans, is that they are probably also fans of either Texas or A&M. Houston may be secondary to them in the realm of college sports.
As far as I have read, nothing has changed with Title 9. Universities AD's are not paying athletes for NIL, its money outside of the AD that is paying for NIL.
Same difference. I understand it's private donations and not something that's publicly funded but the same results will occur that title 9 has worked to change.
This is an interesting take, and I hadn't thought about it this way because I've not been concerned about UH until now. If this is the case as you present, it sounds like UH students may act like UNI and Kirkwood loyalists. Many, but not all UNI students and alumni cheer for the HOKs when playing us. Kirkwood is clearly HOK (very) light with much more interest in the HOKS than us.
Overall, I've resigned myself to this new conference structure and am trying to find acceptance since it looks like this is going to stick.
I have not idea how people think down there. But I assume most fans of smaller schools who are in to college athletics are probably fans of a bigger, Power 5 school. Houston is probably no different. But now that they are in a Power conference, I assume it will take a long time for that dynamic to change.
Decades probably. Cincy seems to have a strong base. But I wonder if UCF has that same issue.
Yeah, I assume these college teams allegiances run deep in a family. Florida can be interesting because of the Pro teams they have there.
A lot of Florida’s population doesn’t go too many decades back. UCF has exploded in growth in part from the influx of non-natives. Add in the fact UCF hasn’t historically competed against UF or FSU, and there are a lot of dual fans.
This isn’t really like Iowa/ISU or getting UF families to root for FSU, which takes decades (although hate is still caring and often means watching). UCF with P5 success will see growth, although the SEC brand is so dominant.
It’s not much different than how a small private school in FL once became a draw when having success, but with UCF having a much larger natural base of people that will care. Btw, it’s surprising how little people in FL care about Miami.
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"... it’s surprising how little people in FL care about Miami."
I'll bet big people don't like them though.
Sarcasm aside, it's true in Indiana as well that few Hoosiers actually follow Notre Dame, no more so than any other state. If you're Catholic, you follow, otherwise, not so much.
I'll bet big people don't like them though.
Sarcasm aside, it's true in Indiana as well that few Hoosiers actually follow Notre Dame, no more so than any other state. If you're Catholic, you follow, otherwise, not so much.
Houston is a mediocre school in a pro sports town. If they are really good they draw, think Houston BB during the 80's. Other than that they will always be 2nd fiddle in town.
2nd fiddle? You’re more optimistic than me.
It’s not about being the favorite. 2nd fiddle can still get ratings. Ratings are all that matters.
Being a mediocre school is irrelevant, although they’ll likely close the gap with the rest of the Big 12 before long.
All I know is of you're gonna play in Texas you better have a fiddle in the band
