Big 12 realignment is back...looks like real changes coming soon.

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Actually Missouri started the instability by openly campaigning for the Big 10 when they announced expansion after ND dissed them. Colorado also always wanted to be in the PAC and rumored to leave for a while. PAC jumped in and got them when Big 10 announced expansion.

Nebraska left due to Big 10 focusing on them plus the instability created by Mizzou. I believe they wanted concessions from the Big 12 and Texas/OU and didn't get them, so they bolted for the better deal. I agree, though, that many of the Big 12 problems were also caused by Nebraska (and Texas and OU and TA&M), so I have little sympathy for them.

Yup. It was totally Missouri lifting it's skirt to the Big 10 before anyone else started sniffing around. Then Nebraska got the bright idea to jump ship and Missouri ended up never being considered by them at all. They probably ended up alright, though, considering where they landed. But I still liked that Mizzou was one of our best rivalries is so many sports.
 

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I guess it's what the Big 12 will probably have to do to survive but it's a bummer we're probably going to add two more non-P5 schools that aren't AAU which will just put us further behind the other conferences. Wasn't all 4 schools that left the Big 12 AAU schools at the time? Seems like the conference is just slowly going the wrong direction.
 

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It's pretty well known they are planning on expanding soon.

I hope you are right. Don't get me wrong, I love the round robin nature of our major sports, but getting back to 12 (or more), and perhaps converting Longhorn to Big 12 Network will add greatly to stability and conference image IMO. I trust the powers that be to pick the right schools, but I imagine it will be Cincy and someone from UCONN/Memphis/USF/BYU.
 

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We finally get rid of Nebraska so I don't have to hear "Nebbie" nearly as often.

Now we'll get Cincinnati and we'll start hearing "Nati".

Not sure which term us more annoying

Is there a Cincinnati State? And if so, can we please call them "Nati Lite"?
 

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JP had a few interesting comments on the morning Rush today. Can't quote exactly, but he doesn't deny it like he usually does. Hes usually 100% all in on the 10 team league, now his tone is a little different.


This. JP wasn't afraid to talk about it as usual. Talked about studies looking at expansion and how it added value and made it clear to know that it's not just about adding football, etc. But about creating a stable future (i.e. making Boren happy). Talked openly about how they are looking at a network and on how they would go about creating content for it. Very interesting. Was on about 715 this morning if someone knows how to link it.
 

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I am not a Chadd Scott fan, but I don't think his article is far off. I get the want to be on a dedicated TV channel, but I believe the cy.tv platform is much better and more flexible. I think the conference should move to that. instead of trying to integrate the longhorn network into a conference network.

That article should read "ACC propaganda"

The big 12 schools have their tier 3 rights and sell those rights after they collect 23 million. ESPN owns all the ACC rights. That's all they get.

An online option wouldn't touch the amount you can make with a network. For online you will only sell to true fans. The network requires everyone to pay and the longhorn network is already on Dish. This should be an easy transition for the big 12.

This isn't California or the acc. In the Midwest you will have zero problems getting this added and if you can pull in Ohio or new York with 2 additions?

I understand why an acc guy is worried about the big 12 network. That means bad things for the ACC long term.
 
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I really like the round robin format but I'd like to get two more good schools just so we have 12 teams in the Big 12. I used to make fun of the Big 10 for not having 10 until it happened to us...
 

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Never understood why NIU can't get a look. Great on field success. Huge TV market.

I see this sentiment just enough that I wanted to log in to reply. This is the equivalent of adding UNI to the Big 12, which is clearly not on the same level. Heck, if Wikipedia is to be believed, their endowment is only $70 million. There are high schools with much larger endowments.

NIU was formed as the "normal school" of Illinois, historically meant to train teachers. These schools were usually tertiary additions to the large state and agricultural universities. Just look at some of these equivalents:

Iowa: U of Northern Iowa
Illinois: Northern Illinois U
Michigan: Eastern Michigan U
Indiana: Indiana State U
Minnesota: Winona State U
Wisconsin: U of Wisconsin-Platteville
Missouri: Truman State U

These are the schools historically on the same level as NIU. Hardly a killer addition to the Big 12.

As for the other reports, would not be surprised if it is UConn and Cincinnati, but IMO Big 12 is being shortsighted again. Working on some thoughts...
 
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Kagavi

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Do you think any more people in New York watch UConn?

False equivalency. Reading closely between the lines, this expansion is less about football as a sport and more about strengthening the collation of universities, especially on the research side, which is where mucho $$$ is made. Peak cable has most assuredly been reached anyway.

UConn is the flagship state university of Connecticut and is in the midst of receiving a $1.5 BILLION investment from the state (see HERE) to turn it into one of the top research universities in the country, if not the world. They boast multiple national championships in one of the two premiere sports.

I don't remember who mentioned it, but one of the Big 12 leaders was talking about taking an 100-year view of expansion, which was a change in philosophy sorely needed. Migration patterns may see populations retreat slightly from the coastlines of New York City and Boston towards the central core, which happens to be Connecticut.

Do they make geographical sense in the Big 12. Not really. But sense was thrown out the window about a decade ago.
 

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