Big 12 realignment is back...looks like real changes coming soon.
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CycloneErik
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In terms of TV, it's not going to get the prime spots, either. Sure, recruits "can" watch the games, but it's a lot tougher to sell people on playing at 11 AM on Fox Sports Mid-South-Midwest-Because-We-Have-To-Show-Something than it is the better time slots.
I'm not thinking TV or football or basketball. I'm thinking places I'd like to visit. So shoot me.
Because schools should be added to strengthen conference prestige; not soften Iowa State's schedule. And conference prestige is judged largely by the success of its football programs. This is all about making sure the Big 12 continues to have a place at the big boy table- AKA the College Football playoff.
Take AIB East & the Buckeyes for example: OU got in over them despite having one loss because they played the Big 12 gauntlet rather than coasting through a field of patsies.
Bad football? By your standard there isn't a conference that doesn't have a division with terrible football.
The big ten west is a joke especially considering they don't play the best teams from the other side ever...unlike the big 12 north.
The SEC division with misouri is a joke. Only 8 conference games and weak in conference schedule.
The ACC is weak in both divisions. The pac may be more balanced but overall below big 12 football.
Unlike these other conferences with over 12 teams, the big 12 still plays the other teams regularly if at 12.
Again bs. Zero benefit to equal divisions.
If you think OU got in because of their big 12 schedule then you might want to rethink that.
OU got in because they are a traditional power and they looked better than Iowa by far and osu wasn't too impressive all year. How close was the big ten to getting 2 teams?
My goodness. MSU got rolled in one of the worst beat downs I have seen at that level of game. Iowa got the same.
What you don't get is those teams should have never been in the conversation at all.
Big12 won't expand west.
North and South will be the divisions. It's easier for "bad teams" to appear better in that scenario, something that can't happen in the current Big12 and does happen in the other conferences.
10 team conferences are great, but not when you're the only one. Expansion has to happen, because the other conferences aren't shrinking.
North and South will be the divisions. It's easier for "bad teams" to appear better in that scenario, something that can't happen in the current Big12 and does happen in the other conferences.
10 team conferences are great, but not when you're the only one. Expansion has to happen, because the other conferences aren't shrinking.
I am thinking the Big 12 would be better off adding Memphis and Cinci and not add UConn.
Then we could have divisions like this.
4 Texas schools and 2 Oklahoma schools in one division. 2 Kansas schools, Iowa State, WVU, and Cinci and Memphis in the other division.
A person could also put the 2 Oklahoma schools, 2 Kansas schools, Iowa State, and Texas in one division. And the other 3 Texas schools, WVU, Cinci, and Memphis in the other division. And satisfy OU and Texas wanting to be in the same division.
Then we could have divisions like this.
4 Texas schools and 2 Oklahoma schools in one division. 2 Kansas schools, Iowa State, WVU, and Cinci and Memphis in the other division.
A person could also put the 2 Oklahoma schools, 2 Kansas schools, Iowa State, and Texas in one division. And the other 3 Texas schools, WVU, Cinci, and Memphis in the other division. And satisfy OU and Texas wanting to be in the same division.
I don't get the BYU love. It would make this conference a even bigger geographic nightmare. 3 time zones and it costs a lot of money to send your softball team there. We also know scheduling with them will be a pain and they will want to keep their own network. The Pac 12 added Colorado and not BYU. So BYU doesn't want to join, or they want to be a pain in the ***, or they are not worth having in a P5 conference.
BYU is a pain in the rear. You get a conference network and they will refuse to play Basketball on Sunday for the conference network.
BYU is more trouble than they are worth. That is why they were not chosen to go to the Pac 12.
The Big 12 either expands or gets picked apart by the other P5 conferences in the future (or near future). Where do you think that leaves Iowa State?
We all know the SEC isn't going to invite us. The Big 10 has refused to offer an invite to us, even though it makes the most sense. The ACC knows ISU would be a terrible geographic fit, as well as the PAC 12 or 14 or 16 or whatever it is.
Didn't want to read all the posts so if said before sorry. But I feel these would be okay teams to add. I just have a feeling that Uconn is going to be our version of Big10 Rutgers in The big12. It's flipped though they are a dumbster in FB, okay in men's Bball.
Scary great in Woman's Bball, Baylor, Texas, uconn, & ISU all in same conference wow. Does uconn have a wrestling program? Cincy would be another Louisville situation. Thus the big 12 better not pass on Cincy too. I have been preaching look out for the ACC to slipt up so maybe we could add any of these teams Pitt, Syarcuse, Georgia tech, va tech, FSU.
Scary great in Woman's Bball, Baylor, Texas, uconn, & ISU all in same conference wow. Does uconn have a wrestling program? Cincy would be another Louisville situation. Thus the big 12 better not pass on Cincy too. I have been preaching look out for the ACC to slipt up so maybe we could add any of these teams Pitt, Syarcuse, Georgia tech, va tech, FSU.
I say there is no chance that all the Texas schools and the Oklahoma schools are put into one division. For one, it would create unequal spending in travel expenses, secondly the conference is going to want to break up the "power" schools in the conference somewhat. They won't want a new B1G problem, where their best teams beat each other up each year. More than likely, at least one of Baylor or TCU, if not both would be in the opposite division as UT and OU.
I could see:
Division 1:
Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, Kansas, Kansas State
Division 2:
TCU, Baylor, Iowa State, UConn, West Virginia, Cincy
And that's exactly why the Big12 wouldn't do it...look at the b1g. The conference will want to have a chance at as many teams being bowl eligible as possible. That won't happen if your best five teams are in one division.
