Big10 rumors today

[cyIclSoneU]

But if a league is trying to monetize 2 conference semi-final game for big bucks you want the game to appear attractive on paper and the best way to do that is the top 4 teams in the whole league not just 1 from every pod.

Right but I’m saying there is no good way to get “the top 4 teams in the whole league.” You could have a 7-2 team who managed to avoid Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and a 6-3 team that played all three of them and went 1-2 in those games. The schedules are unbalanced so you can’t guarantee getting the four best teams no matter what.

 

[Gunnerclone]

Ask the PAC how thats working for them? Remember their motto? "Conference of champions"

men's basketball yes, but the other sports are not going to add up to anything. Maybe hockey for the B1G and baseball for the SEC can do a little better than break even.

It’s about the brand and the value of the brand, not the dollars and cents of each individual sport. I get it, you don’t want ISU in the Big 10, but they are going to expand and it’s not going to be USC or Oregon or Washington.

 

[cyfan92]

The "alliance" isn't going to pay the PAC's bills though. That was 100% a SEC playoff expansion roadblock. Nothing less nothing more.

More like delaying the expansion to make sure Greg Sankey can't get 4+ teams in a new 12 team playoff.

SEC wants to either keep the current system or have more at-large spots open so ESPN and their fanboys can inflate their conference to get a majority of the at large positions

 

[JM4CY]

It’s about the brand and the value of the brand, not the dollars and cents of each individual sport. I get it, you don’t want ISU in the Big 10, but they are going to expand and it’s not going to be USC or Oregon or Washington.

Agreed. Their not going any further west than Buena Vista.

 

[Win5002]

It’s about the brand and the value of the brand, not the dollars and cents of each individual sport. I get it, you don’t want ISU in the Big 10, but they are going to expand and it’s not going to be USC or Oregon or Washington.

I absolutely do want ISU in the B1G or SEC. Where do you get the idea I don't? I just try and look at it from a realistic perspective. All or most of my posts in this thread have been under the assumption there was credibility to Flugar's tweets. All I said was the PAC takes the conference of champions approach and it doesn't monetize. Its football and basketball. ISU has always supported bball in a very strong way and has built itself into a very solid football attendance school. Now it just has to keep winning in football and maybe upgrade football ticket prices to maximize revenue. All that being said don't say I don't want ISU in the B1G if I think its a stretch they answer the SEC OU/UT addition with KU/ISU. I might have said that in this thread but it could have been another thread.

I doubt Flugar is right that expansion would rule out alliance schools. There is nothing binding about it. But if that was correct all I have said is it makes sense for ESPN/SEC/OU & UT to want the B12 dissolved now and there is financial incentive to make that happen.

Its better for each B12 school to have a home in a new P4 with a long term contract than to get exit and GOR money in a conference that is "considered" shakier than the other 4. Although, I'm not convinced the new B12 can't complete with the ACC & PAC going forward.

 

[Cyclones1969]

It’s about the brand and the value of the brand, not the dollars and cents of each individual sport. I get it, you don’t want ISU in the Big 10, but they are going to expand and it’s not going to be USC or Oregon or Washington.

I wonder why an Iowa state fan wouldn’t want Iowa State in the best possible position going forward?

that is the stability of the big 10. But he seems to really want Iowa State to be damaged financially, and as a brand

that’s just weird for someone who claimed to be an Iowa State fan

 

[SCNCY]

Purdue is a fine university, but Northwestern is an elite, top-ten-in-country school.

They are also the only private school in the conference. I don't remember why, but you always want to have a private school in the conference for either tax reasons or privacy reasons that prevent a conference from disclosing certain things.

 

[20eyes]

They are also the only private school in the conference. I don't remember why, but you always want to have a private school in the conference for either tax reasons or privacy reasons that prevent a conference from disclosing certain things.

Or in Vanderbilt's case you want to be the Professor Frink on the t-shirt surrounded by Cletus's...

 

[jcyclonee]

They are also the only private school in the conference. I don't remember why, but you always want to have a private school in the conference for either tax reasons or privacy reasons that prevent a conference from disclosing certain things.

Money laundering

 

[Win5002]

I wonder why an Iowa state fan wouldn’t want Iowa State in the best possible position going forward?

that is the stability of the big 10. But he seems to really want Iowa State to be damaged financially, and as a brand

that’s just weird for someone who claimed to be an Iowa State fan

So I play along with the Flugar's tweets and give a plausible explanation how it possibly could make sense for ESPN to move everyone in the B12 to other leagues and ISU ends up being one of two in the B1G and you still claim I want ISU damaged financially.

You make absolutely no sense. You just want to have something to find some Hawkeye boogeyman in every closet.

 

[Sigmapolis]

They are also the only private school in the conference. I don't remember why, but you always want to have a private school in the conference for either tax reasons or privacy reasons that prevent a conference from disclosing certain things.

You can stash lots of dirty secrets with the private school because they're immune to FOIA.

Public schools can only hide things for so long against a determined journalist.

Private schools can hide forever unless there's a subpoena.

 

[JM4CY]

You can stash lots of dirty secrets with the private school because they're immune to FOIA.

Public schools can only hide things for so long against a determined journalist.

Private schools can hide forever unless there's a subpoena.

Which makes the crap at Baylor even more sus.

 

[CascadeClone]

Or in Vanderbilt's case you want to be the Professor Frink on the t-shirt surrounded by Cletus's...

Reminded me of this. Looks like we are going to have to update it for BYU, CIncy, UH, and UCF.

 

[Sigmapolis]

Which makes the crap at Baylor even more sus.

I know we quite justifiably find them vile.

But I don't think it is an accident the major conferences have always had one private school.

Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Baylor, and Stanford are "convenient" places to hide things.

Baylor or TCU was the choice over Houston for the original Big 12 back in the 1990s because the new conference, and the OU/NU/UT powers that be, needed the hiding spot.

 

[JM4CY]

I know we quite justifiably find them vile.

But I don't think it is an accident the major conferences have always had one private school.

Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Baylor, and Stanford are "convenient" places to hide things.

Baylor or TCU was the choice over Houston for the original Big 12 back in the 1990s because the new conference, and the OU/NU/UT powers that be, needed the hiding spot.

How does one school hide information in another school though? I believe you. Just not sure how this works.

 

[loyalsons4evertrue]

all I want is for the Big 8 to be back together.....I was only born into the Big 12 and although Iowa State football back then left a lot to be desired, sticking with teams you know and relate to is awesome....obviously I want Iowa State to be in the best spot going forward and even if it's the slightest chance that we could go to the B1G, if the offer is there, there's no way we're denying it. Still, some nostalgia is with me and the other Big 8 schools....what I'd do to play Nebraska and Mizzou again, heck even Colorado

 

[SCNCY]

How does one school hide information in another school though? I believe you. Just not sure how this works.

I think the protection is just for the conference, so each public school is still responsible for reporting their AD budgets/revenue and stuff. Its just that Baylor's private status allows the conference (think conference offices/corporate setup) to not report stuff they don't have to, such as budgets, costs, and revenue.

 

[FriendlySpartan]

How does one school hide information in another school though? I believe you. Just not sure how this works.

It’s not so much schools hiding things as much as the conference hiding things. That’s all speculation though that I’ve heard from a bunch of people. Not sure if it actually happens

 

[FriendlySpartan]

Maybe you can tell me, since I keep asking all of these hawkroaches who pretend this site isn’t there whole life

What are some good sites for other big 10 schools. I’d like to read about what other schools are going through.

247 is boring. Looking for kind of independent fan sites.

Btw this is my favorite weekly post on mgoblog where they discuss their future opponents in a pretty funny way. Most of their posts are pretty analytical but in this one they describe Nebraska as an adolescent hippopotamus.

Opponent Watch 2021: Week 5 | mgoblog

About Last Week Fuller Repeat after me: Physics is not your friend. The Road Ahead Nebraska (3-3, 1-2 B1G) Last week: Beat Northwestern, 56-7 Recap: There isn’t much onion to peel here. The most points they’ve scored under Scott Frost. More than doubling Northwestern’s offensive efficiency...

mgoblog.com

 

[jcyclonee]

I know we quite justifiably find them vile.

But I don't think it is an accident the major conferences have always had one private school.

Duke, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Baylor, and Stanford are "convenient" places to hide things.

Baylor or TCU was the choice over Houston for the original Big 12 back in the 1990s because the new conference, and the OU/NU/UT powers that be, needed the hiding spot.

There could be some wisdom to this statement. However, that would mean that the old Big 8 would have been a beaming light of integrity and visibility as the only major conference without a private school. Nebraska covered their sins for a long time and there was never really any accountability for the behavior of the Oklahoma football players.

In Nebraska's case at least, I guess there would need to be some motivation to uncover the seedier aspects of the program. The fans and press were more than happy to accept the quiet murmurs. Football was way more important than public safety and the long-term health of the players.