Big10 rumors today

trajanJ

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The next couple of years will be interesting. I do love how some people seem to think they really have inside information and post it on places like here. Do you really think one of the few professional people that might actually know what's going on would tell someone and that person would post it for everyone to see?
 

jcyclonee

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Because I'm in a good mood I'll play the guessing game:

Nebraska
Maryland
Rutgers
???
Maybe Iowa. Everybody hates their fans.

They could join a conference with LSU, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Connecticut (and a few others) as the most d*ckish fans in the country.
 

jcyclonee

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Can I tack on non-gopher attitude, these guys are so insufferable at times hanging on to iowa, ohio state, and wisconsins coat tails you would think they have actually won something.
Gopher fans are a bit strange, always wondering why they can't have nice things when they are such a great institution.
 

Althetuna

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Informally NW has a much more prestigious reputation than Purdue. I don't believe I've ever heard Purdue referred to academically.

I'm not really sure how a conference kicks out a school outside of heavy scandals, but obviously that's not even a thing.
Purdue's engineering program is highly regarded.
 

FriendlySpartan

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Oh here we go again.

Post on a ISU message board as a "friendly fan" of another school. And then show the typical B1G arrogance whenever possible.

KU has no value? Please. With comments like that and some of your other gems, I would say your so-called "sources" are completely full of shite.

Were you in the room when KU was being discussed? I suppose you cast the deciding vote against them, perhaps? Your schtick is getting well past it's expiration date...
Feel free to block me. Also super interested on where I have been wrong? I said exactly what was happening with big ten expansion from the beginning, laid out the exact alliance details before they were public, and also said the big 12 expansion targets before it happened (admittedly didn’t think you were going to add this many). Really didn’t think saying KU has no value from a big ten perspective would be that big of an issue on an ISU page. In a couple years could things change, sure, but for the near future it is what it is.
 

Win5002

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Latest thing on the brain:

Let's say the 4 conferences go to 16 like we've outlined. For all the talk about expanding the playoff, if the 4 conferences do 4 pods with a semifinal round, we could have a de-facto 16 team playoff. Conference champions move on.

Of course, it doesn't solve the question of the G5 and next rung of schools like BYU, Cincy, UCF, Houston. But who knows.

Again, all in fun.
Also, there will be some additional movement of teams. Probably a few spots because the B1G & SEC at some point go to 18 or 20, possibly 24.

Or they stay around 16-18 and a few schools drop out due to issues like pay for play or athletes are considered employees from a medical liability perspective. Some schools will probably voluntarily drop down to more of an amatuer model. Even if that is only 6-8 schools from teams like BC, WF, Wash. St., Oregon St., Vandy, Syr., Duke, Northwestern it creates quite a few more possible spots if the B1G and SEC go to 18-20 also.
 

madguy30

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Purdue's engineering program is highly regarded.

Yeah and I think overall they rank high in general, but I really never hear anything in conversation about their academics vs. NW where I hear often how they win in football because of how smart they are, you know, because they go to NW.
 
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BillBrasky4Cy

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Feel free to block me. Also super interested on where I have been wrong? I said exactly what was happening with big ten expansion from the beginning, laid out the exact alliance details before they were public, and also said the big 12 expansion targets before it happened (admittedly didn’t think you were going to add this many). Really didn’t think saying KU has no value from a big ten perspective would be that big of an issue on an ISU page. In a couple years could things change, sure, but for the near future it is what it is.

LMAO none of this is about the "near future". The B1G has done exactly what most said they would do but that has to do with legality of the whole situation...
 

KidSilverhair

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This is actually a good idea, and more accurately represents the reality of larger conferences. When you can’t play *everybody* (or almost everybody) in your conference, at least you compete against your division - and use those results to get a qualifier for the conference championship game.

I like it.

I posted this in a hurry before I got to my actual point, which is if conferences are going to balloon to 16-20-24 teams - which means it’s not really a “conference,” it’s a couple of conferences with a scheduling arrangement - this idea recognizes that fact.

Only your games in the “Big 16 Norris Division (conference)” count as far as qualifying for the overall “Big 16” championship game. That’s a clear acknowledgment that there’s no way to balance your overall schedule with so many members. It’s a great solution, I think.
 

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Yeah and I think overall they rank high in general, but I really never hear anything in conversation about their academics vs. NW where I hear often how they win in football because of how smart they are, you know, because they go to NW.
Purdue is a fine university, but Northwestern is an elite, top-ten-in-country school.
 

Win5002

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Just my opinion here, but I think one way the B10 can get ahead of the SEC is by pursuing a “total package” type of strategy. Academics, Olympic sports, basketball, research, football, arts, etc. They aren’t just going to look at football as the be all end all of their realignment strategy which is very big ten of them. I think it allows them to stay competitive with the SEC but also be able to keep their pinkies in the air over the heads of the dumb southerners and that’s important to their base.

Ask the PAC how thats working for them? Remember their motto? "Conference of champions"

men's basketball yes, but the other sports are not going to add up to anything. Maybe hockey for the B1G and baseball for the SEC can do a little better than break even.
 

CascadeClone

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Purdue is a fine university, but Northwestern is an elite, top-ten-in-country school.

FWIW, that Altimore report had Purdue as a Top40 in the nation school, and 4th best in the B1G, using blended WSJ and USNWR ratings.

Using just the USNWR ratings, OSU and Wisc jump Purdue (still Top 60).

It's not elite, but it is one of the absolute best of the next tier. ISU is roughly 80th and 115th on the same ratings, with a smaller endowment.
 

Win5002

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There is no good way to get the clear best 4 teams when you have uneven scheduling. There are downsides to every proposal. When you play only 9 of 15 teams in your league, there’s a big element of luck
But if a league is trying to monetize 2 conference semi-final game for big bucks you want the game to appear attractive on paper and the best way to do that is the top 4 teams in the whole league not just 1 from every pod.
 

isucy86

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The B1G isn't interested in the PAC making more money though.
They would if it brings the Big10 more money.

By bundling the Big10/Pac12 Networks do they increase # of households Big10 Network is in? Could Big10 take a cut of Pac12 Network revenue above current 15M households?
 

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