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ZRF

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What if a Big 12 team finishes 5-13 or 6-12 and an overall record of something like 17-15. If the five or six league wins are all Q1 don’t you think they’d probably get in? Would depend how close the losses were of course but it wouldn’t shock me this year.

Lol. No.

Optics matter. Nobody is getting in with that kind of conference and overall record. It's not happening, regardless od conference and/or Q1 wins.
 
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At what point do Drake or Indiana State get to at large bid status? Drake's current net is easily in bubble team range and Ind State's would be "in".
If their only conference losses are to each other. The Valley should be a 2 bid league.

I could even see a scenario where the Valley gets 3 bids. Indiana St wins out and losses in the semifinals, Drake only losses to Ind St and makes the finals, then a mystery team like UNI or Bradley win the Valley tournament title.

Drake may be sent to Dayton in that scenario, but they'd have a decent resume.
 

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If their only conference losses are to each other. The Valley should be a 2 bid league.

I could even see a scenario where the Valley gets 3 bids. Indiana St wins out and losses in the semifinals, Drake only losses to Ind St and makes the finals, then a mystery team like UNI or Bradley win the Valley tournament title.

Drake may be sent to Dayton in that scenario, but they'd have a decent resume.
yet the Big Ten would still get 9 in for some stupid reason
 
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Top 50 on both offense and defense on Torvik right now...

Arizona
Auburn
BYU
Colorado
Connecticut
Creighton
Gonzaga
Houston
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Michigan St.
North Carolina
Purdue
St. John's
Tennessee
Utah
Xavier

Iowa St. barely didn't make the cut (#51 offense, #2 defense, #10 overall on the list).
 

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Top 50 on both offense and defense on Torvik right now...

Arizona
Auburn
BYU
Colorado
Connecticut
Creighton
Gonzaga
Houston
Illinois
Kansas
Marquette
Michigan St.
North Carolina
Purdue
St. John's
Tennessee
Utah
Xavier

Iowa St. barely didn't make the cut (#51 offense, #2 defense, #10 overall on the list).
I'm a bit surprised that KU is on there as their defense hasn't looked great (certainly not up to KU standards) when I've watched them. I suppose if they're in the worst part of the top 50, that makes sense.
 

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I'm a bit surprised that KU is on there as their defense hasn't looked great (certainly not up to KU standards) when I've watched them. I suppose if they're in the worst part of the top 50, that makes sense.

#27 offense
#31 defense
#17 overall

That's good enough to be a dark horse/dangerous in the tournament.

I know the computers don't love them right now, but this has been what Bill Self does. Looks vulnerable for a while, unlocks something on his team, and makes a run in February and March.
 
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#27 offense
#31 defense
#17 overall

That's good enough to be a dark horse/dangerous in the tournament.

I know the computers don't love them right now, but this has been what Bill Self does. Looks vulnerable for a while, unlocks something on his team, and makes a run in February and March.
Hoping he unlocks it next week
 
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Cyballzz

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Lol. No.

Optics matter. Nobody is getting in with that kind of conference and overall record. It's not happening, regardless od conference and/or Q1 wins.

Yeah those days are long gone. We got in the tournament with a 5-9 conference record in the early 90's but even with 21 wins a team with a .357 (or worse) win % isn't getting in.

That team had some damn good wins but not even that would be enough to off set the overall conference record.
 
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