I've been out to Dayton and watched them play a couple times. I have watched them play almost every time they have been on TV the past 6 years. I am unimpressed. I just brought stats into it b/c I think they show a pretty good picture that he hasn't really maintained that success
I would politely disagree with that assessment. Purnell took over a horrible team, built them up, and really only showed the benefits to his methodolgy at the end of his stint. Gregory came in and maintained, which shows by the way he has kept them at their better records under Purnell. That usually doesn't happen at places like UD after a coaching change. He also has the background and connections to coach at a higher level. He is really coming into his own at UD, much quicker than other coaches. Sure he isn't perfect and there are some questions still lingering, but in no way (based on what your stats are showing) would this be a bad hire.
I would politely disagree with that assessment. Purnell took over a horrible team, built them up, and really only showed the benefits to his methodolgy at the end of his stint. Gregory came in and maintained, which shows by the way he has kept them at their better records under Purnell. That usually doesn't happen at places like UD after a coaching change. He also has the background and connections to coach at a higher level. He is really coming into his own at UD, much quicker than other coaches. Sure he isn't perfect and there are some questions still lingering, but in no way (based on what your stats are showing) would this be a bad hire.
Don't get me wrong I will get behind any coach that we hire! I just hope it's not Billy G or Gregory
Someone simply dislikes a head coach with the initials B.G.![]()
Haha! My first girlfriend had the initials of BG. She dumped me for the starting QB. My first fight as a kid was with guy who had initials BG. This is getting very scary :wideeyed:![]()
For those of you throwing around stats without actually following the UD team for most of their life seem to be forgetting that Purnell was there for nearly ten seasons, building that program to respectable records. The fact that Gregory came in, smooth transition, and maintained that level of success is what sells me. Saying this guy is a bad hire based on his record at UD is crazy, and even taking in the point that he won the NIT this year. He would be a great coach at a higher level, and he is showing he is ready for it on track.
Don't get me wrong I will get behind any coach that we hire! I just hope it's not Billy G or Gregory
These are the two more exciting choices. They can obviously recruit.
Billy G can recruit and coach. I just don't want him b/c I think it is hypocritical to fire Larry Eustachy and than hire a guy with 3 DUI's. It will look bad
Since than? He has finished 7th or worse in 4 out of 5 seasons in the conference. This in the BIGXII. A good major division for sure (if not the best) but still a conference that a coach that is getting BCS looks should do much better than that in. If you watch his teams play they generally get worse as the season goes on. In 2007 they started 14-1 and didn't make the dance. In 2006 same story. Started fast and didn't even make the NIT. Even this year they started 13-3 (2-0 in conference) and only won 6 of their last 14 games before going on the NIT run.
2005–2006 Dayton 14-17 6-10 T-11th
2006–2007 Dayton 19-12 8-8 T-7th
2007–2008 Dayton 23-11 8-8 T-7th
2008–2009 Dayton 27-8 11-5 T-2nd
2009-2010 Dayton 25-12 8-8 7th
Just my opinion here. I don't think he would be a good hire.
Billy G can recruit and coach. I just don't want him b/c I think it is hypocritical to fire Larry Eustachy and than hire a guy with 3 DUI's. It will look bad
Brian G can recruit pretty well. In fact he usually brings in either the best or 2nd best class in the A10....but he still finished 7th or worse in conference. And I don't think he would get any better of players at ISU than he did at Dayton.
Not sure why this guy is not good enough for you?
Did you forget that college basketball is a big-time business? Who cares if it's hypocritical? You can't let present and future decisions be dictated by decisions made in the past because it might look "hypocritical", especially if those said decisions are what's best for your basketball program in the present and future.
We fired LE 7 years ago now. Should we have fired him in the first place? I'm in the "no" camp. However, unless we hire the guy back, it's time to move on and stop letting our "guilt" dictate what decisions we make in the future.
The fact that he seems to have hit a wall at 7th place in his conference worries me. I have higher expectations for Iowa State than one winning conference record in five years.
While I admit I haven't seen them play many times, I agree with 85's "unimpressed" assessment. I attended their game at Creighton in 2008 where they were blown out 77-59. I had expected Dayton to win, but after the game got going I wasn't worried about them beating the Jays at any point. And this was a Creighton team that I had a fairly low opinion of at that point (they had lost a to Arkansas-Little Rock and Nebraska a couple weeks before). Later that season I couldn't believe the same Dayton team I'd watched Creighton dismantle went on to win a Tournament game.
I don't see how you can call a coach who has finished 7th or worse four out of the last five years in his conference (even if it is a good conference) a "good hire". If he had needed to rebuild Dayton, that would be a different story. But Purnell left him a pretty solid program. I could get behind him eventually, but I would be very disappointed. If the rumors of the demands for a huge salary are true, then he is clearly not worth the money.
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So, his unimpressive record throughout his coaching career in a mid-major conference isn't important?