Brian Gregory
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I would politely disagree with that assessment. Purnell took over a horrible team, built them up, and really only showed the benefits to his methodolgy at the end of his stint. Gregory came in and maintained, which shows by the way he has kept them at their better records under Purnell. That usually doesn't happen at places like UD after a coaching change. He also has the background and connections to coach at a higher level. He is really coming into his own at UD, much quicker than other coaches. Sure he isn't perfect and there are some questions still lingering, but in no way (based on what your stats are showing) would this be a bad hire.
Much quicker? He has been there for 7 years. Has been to the NCAA tourney once in 6 years. I think you are selling Dayton short. There is great local talent around there and they love their basketball at Dayton. Plus the play in a great arena. It's an easy sell for recruits. Which hasn't been Gregory's problem. His teams are really talented but never do anything in conference play.
The fact that he seems to have hit a wall at 7th place in his conference worries me. I have higher expectations for Iowa State than one winning conference record in five years.
While I admit I haven't seen them play many times, I agree with 85's "unimpressed" assessment. I attended their game at Creighton in 2008 where they were blown out 77-59. I had expected Dayton to win, but after the game got going I wasn't worried about them beating the Jays at any point. And this was a Creighton team that I had a fairly low opinion of at that point (they had lost a to Arkansas-Little Rock and Nebraska a couple weeks before). Later that season I couldn't believe the same Dayton team I'd watched Creighton dismantle went on to win a Tournament game.
I don't see how you can call a coach who has finished 7th or worse four out of the last five years in his conference (even if it is a good conference) a "good hire". If he had needed to rebuild Dayton, that would be a different story. But Purnell left him a pretty solid program. I could get behind him eventually, but I would be very disappointed. If the rumors of the demands for a huge salary are true, then he is clearly not worth the money.
Someone simply dislikes a head coach with the initials B.G.
Haha! My first girlfriend had the initials of BG. She dumped me for the starting QB. My first fight as a kid was with guy who had initials BG. This is getting very scary :wideeyed:
Haha! My first girlfriend had the initials of BG. She dumped me for the starting QB. My first fight as a kid was with guy who had initials BG. This is getting very scary :wideeyed:
Why don't you just lie down on this couch here, lets have a chat...
:huh:
So, his unimpressive record throughout his coaching career in a mid-major conference isn't important?
Billy G can recruit and coach. I just don't want him b/c I think it is hypocritical to fire Larry Eustachy and than hire a guy with 3 DUI's. It will look bad
Brian G can recruit pretty well. In fact he usually brings in either the best or 2nd best class in the A10....but he still finished 7th or worse in conference. And I don't think he would get any better of players at ISU than he did at Dayton.
It's an excellent point and one I was considering typing out in another thread as the only big reason we don't hire him (unless he's not clean, that is).
But that was under a different athletic director. Yes, our university president is the same, but the AD is the face of those decisions.
Some would certainly bring it up, but I'm fine with that. Win some games and no one will remember a thing.
Winning > Hypocrisy.
Just to make a point...
Take everything you just said above and put McDermotts name and BIG XII in there and you have a damn close reason why you and others wanted to KEEP McDermott (minus the winning seasons).
Not sure why this guy is not good enough for you?
Did you forget that college basketball is a big-time business? Who cares if it's hypocritical? You can't let present and future decisions be dictated by decisions made in the past because it might look "hypocritical", especially if those said decisions are what's best for your basketball program in the present and future.
We fired LE 7 years ago now. Should we have fired him in the first place? I'm in the "no" camp. However, unless we hire the guy back, it's time to move on and stop letting our "guilt" dictate what decisions we make in the future.
Must have missed my posts, reasons, stats in this thread as reasons why I don't care for him
I know it is a big time business. I said I would support a BG hire. I will support any hire. But it does look really bad if we hire Billy G. It will not be good attention that we will receive. Plus I don't think his personality would go over well with ISU fans
Solid points, but the stats don't say everything. They aren't, in shortsight, an accurate indicator of performance without taking other factors into consideration. I do believe there are questions surrounding Gregory, but I also believe that he is ready to coach in a higher league.
The rumors about salary are more concerning to me.
I didn't say it wasn't important, but I don't believe it disqualifies someone from being a good coach. Not to mention that conference isn't poor. Who do you think we should get...Roy Williams...Bobby Knight?!
