NBA: Bulls: Hinrich and #17 pick to Wiz

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Funny, weren't you the guy posting all those Heat blogs about LBJ should go to Miami not long ago claiming it to be gospel? :confused:

I never ever once said I wanted LBJ on the Heat. I posted articles about the Heat being able to sign multiple all stars but NEVER singled out lebron. You are wrong.
 

CYphyllis

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Jordan won 6 championships with Scottie Pippen. NO ONE else.
Yeah horace grant, tony kukoc, rodman ya role players but good players?

Uh, ever heard of a few guys named Bill Wennington, Bill Cartwright, and Luc Longley? Don't even get me started on Jud Bucheler.
 

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So let me get this straight. CycloneBBallman and clonefreek. You seriously would prefer Joe Johnson over Lebron James?

please reply yes to this post if so.

Yes, why waste the money on the player when you dont need him? He cannot win it all, I mean something goes on in the locker room if a team all the sudden falls apart in the playoffs.
 

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Yes, why waste the money on the player when you dont need him? He cannot win it all, I mean something goes on in the locker room if a team all the sudden falls apart in the playoffs.

Because somehow Joe Johnson will get the same amount of money and do less.
 

clonefreek

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Uh, ever heard of a few guys named Bill Wennington, Bill Cartwright, and Luc Longley? Don't even get me started on Jud Bucheler.

All greats, but in 1996 when they have the best record in the NBA for the entire season the only people who averaged double digit points were Jordan, Pippen, and kukoc. He had a ton of role players just like lebron and he won with them.
 

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Yes, why waste the money on the player when you dont need him? He cannot win it all, I mean something goes on in the locker room if a team all the sudden falls apart in the playoffs.

Seems like you are pretty quick to blame the Cavs playoff failures on Lebron and none on the supporting cast... but yet you give Lebron ZERO credit for the regular season, saying it is a good reflection of his supporting cast.

hmm....
 

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All greats, but in 1996 when they have the best record in the NBA for the entire season the only people who averaged double digit points were Jordan, Pippen, and kukoc. He had a ton of role players just like lebron and he won with them.

Who on the Cavs is close to Pippen and Rodman?
 

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Here's why I think it doesn't matter who you have running the show when you have talent on a team. Remember the Bulls team without a PG? Ron Harper, MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Longley. Pippen was the point-forward, MJ brought the ball up the floor as did Harper. None were true PG and Pippen and MJ worked just fine having 2 stars on the floor at the same time. Look at the Lakers championship teams. Derek Fisher is not your protypical PG, they had Kobe and Shaq, now Kobe and Gasol and also have another guy in Odom that needs the ball a lot to be effective. In the NBA, talent usually wins regardless if they are perfect matches because good players can adjust and win together.

I want the best players on my team because the best players will find ways to play together and win. I think Bosh and Rose would be perfectly fine being sidekicks to LeBron. Who wouldn't want a guy that can go off at any moment on your team? When you have a player like that you are going to get better looks on offense because the defense is going to be so occupied trying to keep him from taking over the game. The Bulls would definitely be setup to do a lot of run and gun with those weapons too, Noah and Bosh are very athletic for big men and we already know what Rose and LBJ can do with the ball.

I just don't get why you wouldn't want one of the top 2 players in the league on your team???
 

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Statistically, Antwan Jamison's production was pretty much that same across the board after he got traded to Cleveland. His ppg went down by 5 points but I think that was probably expected as he went from being the go to guy in Washington to 2nd or 3rd option with the Cavs
 

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Don't forget Pete Myers, Jason Caffey, Craig Hodges and BJ Armstrong

Dickey Simpkins! LOL, again just more proof how if you have the best players in your lineup you can get by with mediocre guys that know their rolls off the bench. You sign a guy like Steve Kerr to be your shooter off the bench or a Randy Brown to be a defensive specialist and there are guys out there the Bulls could sign to fill a role like that without having to break the bank for them.
 

clonefreek

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I am saying how else can you explain an entire team breakdown? the Common thing here is lebron and the coach, a leader would get them through their slumps. Leading them on by helping them do whatever he could and encouraging them. They had the best record in the NBA the last 2 seasons but get to the playoffs and have zero confidence. WHY?

And the regular season means nothing, i mean look at san antonio.
They rest players in the season, they do what they need to do to get to the playoffs and then unload on people. Regular season means nothing as long as you make the playoffs
 

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Dickey Simpkins! LOL, again just more proof how if you have the best players in your lineup you can get by with mediocre guys that know their rolls off the bench. You sign a guy like Steve Kerr to be your shooter off the bench or a Randy Brown to be a defensive specialist and there are guys out there the Bulls could sign to fill a role like that without having to break the bank for them.

How the hell can we forget Will Perdue?
 

clonefreek

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I want the Bulls to win thats all, i will love them regardless of who is on the team. I just think Bosh Joe J would be better fits to what they want to do. If you dont have players coming off of the bench to back up these players you still will not win. You must have role players instead of loading things with superstars.
 

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LeBron is just 25 years old and while there is some merit to not winning a championship yet it's not like he's anywhere close to going on the decline. Bosh is only 26 too and the Bulls key players Rose, Noah, and Deng are 21, 25, and 25 repectively so when your entire starting lineup would be 26 years or younger you could say that could be the making of quite a dynasty if they can make it work and play well together. Jordan was 27 or 28 I think before he won his first ring. You can credit Kobe's first 3 rings to playing next to one of the best bigmen to ever play in the NBA in Shaq and these last 2 were more of him being the lead star on the team but again he's surrounded by better talent that James was in Cleveland and no one will ever mistake Mike Brown for Phil Jackson either.
 

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It cracks me up how I can find a million of these blogs/articles about the heat being able to sign anyone they want. So i post one and all the Bulls fans freek and say it's biased and won't happen, yet your own fans post one, and it's fine.

SMDH :no:

They're all biased.