Caleb Grill Transferring

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This is too bad. I know he appeared in over his head. Guessing he saw bigger bodies coming into compete for the 3 and definite separation between himself and the 2 guys ahead of him currently on the roster that play the 2.
 

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It’s not like every other program isn’t facing the same obstacle. It’s not an excuse.
Oh I'm not using it as an excuse. I'm just saying I hadn't thought about the fact that guys aren't going to be able to go on visits for a while and all of this is going to basically be done virtually.
 

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I'll have a better perspective on how we'll be when the roster is assembled.

I was saying that in reference to you saying you'd lose hope if one of those 4 guys leave, and I'd be amazed if all 4 are here. Happy...but amazed.
 

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We've done it. We've found Steve's 2020-2021 excuse. COVID prevented him from recruiting new players.

On to 2021-2022.
I never said this will be an excuse lol I was just saying in general this will be harder than before. For literally every single school.
 
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Honestly, I'm pretty disappointed I didn't get to see any mega dunks from him. His high school highlights were full of them IIRC.
 

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Yeah it is worse. So from that response, I would assume Grill never really showed his discomfort throughout the year. He might've talked to Prohm about it, but maybe he didn't. Either way something seems completely off.

Here is a guy that has photos from his childhood in ISU gear, looked to be an incredibly hard worker, got pretty darn good playing time for a freshman throughout the year, looked like he was starting to figure it out a little bit, anddddd he's gone. I'm as confused as everyone else on here.

There’s nothing to be confused about. Over the next 7-10 days things are going to be extremely rocky. Best thing for JP to do is just remain silent and let it run its course.
 

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Haven’t read the thread yet but here’s my opinion on this news. Iowa State Basketball may or not be okay moving forward but the departure of Caleb Grill will have zero impact on that. In fact, I think we have a better chance to turn this around without him than we do with him.

Firstly, I want to say I appreciate Caleb Grill choosing to be a Cyclone. I always loved how hard he played. I wish him nothing but the best at his next school. Him growing up as a Cyclone fan probably made everyone want him to succeed more than the average ISU player.

Secondly, here’s why I think this decision doesn’t negatively impact ISU basketball. In my honest opinion, he just wasn’t a Big 12 level player. Could he be a decent role guy off the bench? Perhaps. Overall, just like Zion, he lacked some essential skills to make him an impact player at this level. That would be his ball handling ability. If you watched him and Zion closely, you could tell both of them really struggled putting the ball on the floor. As a result, they could only spot up and shoot 3’s in which they didn’t even do it at a high percentage. I didn’t really see those ball skills turning around to the point where he could be a good player on a good team.

With Zion and Caleb transferring, I think Prohm and Iowa State needs to get back to having guards that are playmakers. Zion and Caleb couldn’t do that so these moves allow ISU to go out and find two players that will be able to help turn this thing around quicker than Grill or Zion would have been able to. Now the hard part will be Prohm actually finding those guys and successfully landing them. We know that hasn’t been easy for him lately.