Campbell’s Offense

bozclone

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I just looked at the numbers, and we have one completion this year over 16 yards. Of the 5 completions that have gone for 14+ yards, 3 are for TDs. Either we choose not to make other teams respect our ability to go vertical, we don't have the scheme to go vertical, or we don't have the talent to do so. If it is anything but lack of talent, that has to be put squarely on the coaching staff.
This is not true. Rocco had a 36 yard completion against UNI.
 
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The Big 12 North that we almost won a few times was dog **** at the time we almost won it.
I agree but on the other hand, I remember a time (20 years ago?) when the Big XII was considered at parity with the SEC, We're not at that level anymore, but we're still strong enough that a winning conference record is nothing to sneeze at.
 
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I agree but on the other hand, I remember a time (20 years ago?) when the Big XII was considered at parity with the SEC, We're not at that level anymore, but we're still strong enough that a winning conference record is nothing to sneeze at.

Big 12 Texas beat PAC 12 USC for the NC not so long ago. Undefeated Auburn of the SEC did not make the game.
 

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Rocco does get hit right after the throw but Noel was still very much open on his break and the defender is 4 yards away from Rocco. You are correct though that this would've been a quick hitter but I think that's the throw that needed to be made. Regardless, we can comb through every play to find flaws, the blocking on that play was abysmal.

You are right. Noel did get open before he got it. As quickly as Rocco looks right, and he does so very early, leads me to believe this was his "safe route" in practice. I have a hard time believing it wasn't talked about, practiced, or preached for it to be that instinctual.

That's just a terrible route to even have on that particular play, against this team, and with a freshman QB. When you go back and watch the route trees we do NOTHING to pull linebackers or defensive backs into having to commit, or break early. The only reason Noel was open was because the high coverage was soft, something Rocco couldn't really anticipate until it happened. If he wasn't looking right at Noel when he came free it would have been hard for him to re-survey and hit him when he became open. But that route is a pick 6 waiting to happen. So why even have it in their.

Regardless we both agree the entire play was abysmal and a lot of things should have been done differently.
 
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Curious, exactly who is responsible for those things?

Neither of those things mean we cannot try some flag, post, go, and sluggo routes.

Not to mention any jet sweeps, reverses, or 2 back sets.

Those things you mention do not excuse a lack of creativity or a complete inability to manage a game clock.
You sound like you’re a madden all star and seem to have it all figured out. Have you submitted your resume yet to be the next OC at ISU?
 

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You sound like you’re a madden all star and seem to have it all figured out. Have you submitted your resume yet to be the next OC at ISU?
I love how we aren't allowed to lob valid and obvious criticism at Campbell.

His staff still can't gameplan, manage timeouts, or conduct a hurry-up in year 8 at ISU.

I'm at least smart enough to recognize a serious problem, as were many fans at the game on Saturday.

Not Matt though, had them right where he wanted them: just close enough to lose with dignity.
 

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I love how we aren't allowed to lob valid and obvious criticism at Campbell.

His staff still can't gameplan, manage timeouts, or conduct a hurry-up in year 8 at ISU.
For the most part, your criticisms are stupid. Most people last year believed he stuck with a poor offensive coordinator too long. That problem seems to have been fixed. We've had better recruiting the past four or five years than any time since the 70s, but we don't have a roster full of 4 and 5-star players. Apart from last year with the aforementioned problems on offense, our performance has been pretty good. Perhaps you'd be happier as an Ohio State fan.
 

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I love how we aren't allowed to lob valid and obvious criticism at Campbell.

His staff still can't gameplan, manage timeouts, or conduct a hurry-up in year 8 at ISU.

I'm at least smart enough to recognize a serious problem, as were many fans at the game on Saturday.

Not Matt though, had them right where he wanted them: just close enough to lose with dignity.

You are so smart that you said Campbell’s Conference Records were enhanced by the demise of the Missouri and Nebraska programs……..despite the fact they both left the Big 12 years before Campbell got to Iowa State. And Campbell has not played either team while at Iowa State.

Such an idiot.
 

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Haven't seen enough of the new OC to know what is and is not good yet. I didn't expect a wholesale offensive change, we don't have the guys for that. Think we can run the air raid with our current receiving core and yet another new QB? Full spread? We'd get killed doing something like that. Slowing the game down and adding more plays and series for opponents without our offense actually netting much. There's a reason we play ball control style football... that's how you stay close and win games with inferior talent.

We need to see better execution of the run game. Some of that is on the newer RBs, but the most of it is on OL and TE blocking. That's our next obvious steps to leveling up. Bonus if Rocco himself becomes a legitimate running threat -- that's one thing JJ did very well in his few snaps -- took free yards upfield when they were there.
 

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You are so smart that you said Campbell’s Conference Records were enhanced by the demise of the Missouri and Nebraska programs……..despite the fact they both left the Big 12 years before Campbell got to Iowa State. And Campbell has not played either team while at Iowa State.

Such an idiot.
Alexa please define recruiting footprint.

Some people are so just so myopic.

Honestly, I hope Campbell can stop being a control freak, which clearly ISN'T working on offense, and turns the whole thing over to Nate.

Let him run with it.

Let Rocco audible.

Tell the offense to remember their coaching, play for the guy next to them, and just have fun.

ISU doesn't seem to have fun anymore.

Everyone plays so tight because they are so afraid of mistakes, which actually creates more mistake.
 

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Him and ZRF are Madden Dynasty mode all stars
I'm not getting $4 million a year to simply imitate Brian Ferentz and his playcalling wizardry.

You like slow developing runs out of shotgun behind a weak O-line?

That your idea of exciting football?

Curious, you think maybe we're so thin at WR is because recruits look at ISU just like Iowa and might not want to play in an offense like that?
 
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I'm not getting $4 million a year to simply imitate Brian Ferentz and his playcalling wizardry.

You like slow developing runs out of shotgun behind a weak O-line?

That your idea of exciting football?

Curious, you think maybe we're so thin at WR is because recruits look at ISU just like Iowa and might not want to play in an offense like that?

When ISU has tried to keep up with 'exciting football' they've sucked pretty badly.
 
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I'm not getting $4 million a year to simply imitate Brian Ferentz and his playcalling wizardry.

You like slow developing runs out of shotgun behind a weak O-line?

That your idea of exciting football?

Curious, you think maybe we're so thin at WR is because recruits look at ISU just like Iowa and might not want to play in an offense like that?

The bold is exactly right because no AD would hire a moron like you. Stick to video game football.
 

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Haven't seen enough of the new OC to know what is and is not good yet. I didn't expect a wholesale offensive change, we don't have the guys for that. Think we can run the air raid with our current receiving core and yet another new QB? Full spread? We'd get killed doing something like that. Slowing the game down and adding more plays and series for opponents without our offense actually netting much. There's a reason we play ball control style football... that's how you stay close and win games with inferior talent.

We need to see better execution of the run game. Some of that is on the newer RBs, but the most of it is on OL and TE blocking. That's our next obvious steps to leveling up. Bonus if Rocco himself becomes a legitimate running threat -- that's one thing JJ did very well in his few snaps -- took free yards upfield when they were there.
This is a good post.
 

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I love how we aren't allowed to lob valid and obvious criticism at Campbell.

His staff still can't gameplan, manage timeouts, or conduct a hurry-up in year 8 at ISU.

I'm at least smart enough to recognize a serious problem, as were many fans at the game on Saturday.

Not Matt though, had them right where he wanted them: just close enough to lose with dignity.
We didn’t need to do a hurry up vs Iowa. We needed to score, stop their offense, get the ball back, and score again. We had a chance to do all of that. I’ll continue to trust the man getting paid millions to run the program, not some madden all star.

With how good Iowa’s defense is, if we ran a hurry up and went 3 and out, burning 20 seconds off the clock, that only hurts our defense. …our defense that we have to heavily lean on to win games for us this year. Stick to your recliner.
 
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