Can/Bottle Redemption

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At this point it sounds like they are just making it a TAX. Here are the bullet points of the article posted above.
  • Create a 2-cent handling fee for redemption centers
  • Allow retailers to opt out of taking returns if the store is within a 20-mile radius of a redemption center
  • Require a universal product code label with the redemption value on all eligible containers
  • Delegate the program to the Alcoholic Beverages Division instead of the Department of Natural Resources
  • Start a state mechanism to recover the nickel from unredeemed cans. Rozenboom said up to $48 million goes unredeemed each year.
Make it harder for people to get their redemption, and find a way for the state to "recover" the 48 mill that goes unredeemed...its a TAX now, got it!

You can call it what you want but I am all for the state recovering funds as long as they use it and don't just cut taxes more.
 
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Except they have to haul the cans through the store and then store them inside the store once the machines are full.
I agree there are a lot of careless people who don't care what kind of mess they make in the recycle area. I doubt if Iowans are too concerned if/when empties move through a store - after all, more than 40% of Iowans are not fully or partially vaccinated for a virus that moves easily through the air.
 

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If every small town had curbside recycling, I would say go ahead and get rid of the bottle bill, but that is not the case.

We have two big bins on city property to take our recycling to, and they are jam packed before they empty them. People from smaller towns that have neither curbside or bins bring their recycling here too.

Any effort we try to get curbside is met by the trash companies with a requirement that everyone use the same trash hauler. That causes outrage because people like to go as cheap as they can in picking that. Then they get the cheapest sized bin they can and go dump their overflow in some business’ dumpster.
 
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Things I personally found in returned cans when I worked at Fareway:

Chewing tobacco, dead mice, cockroaches and other bugs (both dead and alive), syringes, crack pipes. It's a lot more common than you think. I personally don't want those cans coming anywhere near food.
 
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I just throw mine in the recycle, but I don't drink a lot of stuff out of cans/bottles. I mean it's probably like 5 or 10 bucks a year I'd be saving.
 

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One of the unexpected consequences of the open container OMVI law is that people that are drinking beer while driving chuck their empties out the window since if the empty container is in a cup holder they will be charged if stopped. This aspect of the law is counter productive to eliminating road side trash.
 
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Things I personally found in returned cans when I worked at Fareway:

Chewing tobacco, dead mice, cockroaches and other bugs (both dead and alive), syringes, crack pipes. It's a lot more common than you think. I personally don't want those cans coming anywhere near food.

They replaced the redemption centers with Urgent Care. So now you get sick people near your food.
 

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Not exactly sure.
Things I personally found in returned cans when I worked at Fareway:

Chewing tobacco, dead mice, cockroaches and other bugs (both dead and alive), syringes, crack pipes. It's a lot more common than you think. I personally don't want those cans coming anywhere near food.
No used condoms? You had the better clientele.
 

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At this point it sounds like they are just making it a TAX. Here are the bullet points of the article posted above.
  • Create a 2-cent handling fee for redemption centers
  • Allow retailers to opt out of taking returns if the store is within a 20-mile radius of a redemption center
  • Require a universal product code label with the redemption value on all eligible containers
  • Delegate the program to the Alcoholic Beverages Division instead of the Department of Natural Resources
  • Start a state mechanism to recover the nickel from unredeemed cans. Rozenboom said up to $48 million goes unredeemed each year.
Make it harder for people to get their redemption, and find a way for the state to "recover" the 48 mill that goes unredeemed...its a TAX now, got it!

Wait a minute how do they intend to collect the 48 million that is unredeemed? Charge the distributer? Leave it to the Iowa legislature to not be able to get anything right.
 
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Yeah that’s dumb too. They don’t think things through at HyVee.
My son’s Hy-Vee, the urgent care is right by the pharmacy and you have to walk by urgent care waiting area to get to pharmacy. So if you have a chronic health issue that requires regular medication, you get to walk through sick people to get it.

Which gets to another pet peeve, waiting forever in waiting room with sick people to see the doctor. Why can’t we just keep the lockdown procedure of checking in on your phone and waiting in the car? Our pediatrician at least had a well child waiting area for kids there for their annual visit. I personally thought my ear infection could have been diagnosed remotely but now I have to wonder what I will get from the little kid coughing away in the waiting room. Clinic still required masks, but kid wasn’t wearing one, maybe too young. But why put a bunch of sick people in the same room for a 45 minute wait anyway?
 
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At this point it sounds like they are just making it a TAX. Here are the bullet points of the article posted above.
  • Create a 2-cent handling fee for redemption centers
  • Allow retailers to opt out of taking returns if the store is within a 20-mile radius of a redemption center
  • Require a universal product code label with the redemption value on all eligible containers
  • Delegate the program to the Alcoholic Beverages Division instead of the Department of Natural Resources
  • Start a state mechanism to recover the nickel from unredeemed cans. Rozenboom said up to $48 million goes unredeemed each year.
Make it harder for people to get their redemption, and find a way for the state to "recover" the 48 mill that goes unredeemed...its a TAX now, got it!
The litter argument the state had when this began isn't really valid. That nickel isn't a deterrent. The vast majority of residential recyclers would gladly put those cans and bottles in their blue can.
 
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Wait a minute how do they intend to collect the 48 million that is unredeemed? Charge the distributer? Leave it to the Iowa legislature to not be able to get anything right.
Doesn't that nickel go to the state from the retailer or is the distributor paying it? I don't understand how unredeemed cans are profit for anyone other than the state.
 

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Doesn't that nickel go to the state from the retailer or is the distributor paying it? I don't understand how unredeemed cans are profit for anyone other than the state.

I'm not sure either where this 48 million is coming from.
 

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Things I personally found in returned cans when I worked at Fareway:

Chewing tobacco, dead mice, cockroaches and other bugs (both dead and alive), syringes, crack pipes. It's a lot more common than you think. I personally don't want those cans coming anywhere near food.
Worked at Hy-Vee for years and can attest to this. Some of the stores I worked in didn't have machines either, so you had to physically handle a lot of them. We even had a sign that said "We only take cans/bottles that have been rinsed out" but it was only there as a scare tactic because no way is a 16 year old kid making $8.50 an hour going to get in a pissing match with somebody about the cleanliness of their pop/beer cans.
 
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Worked at Hy-Vee for years and can attest to this. Some of the stores I worked in didn't have machines either, so you had to physically handle a lot of them. We even had a sign that said "We only take cans/bottles that have been rinsed out" but it was only there as a scare tactic because no way is a 16 year old kid making $8.50 an hour going to get in a pissing match with somebody about the cleanliness of their pop/beer cans.
I've seen 16 year olds threatened with violence for trying to turn down dirty cans.
 
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No used condoms? You had the better clientele.
Dog picked one of those up in a state park. Not sure what was worse to pry out of his mouth, that or the live water snake. Both made me puke, but only had to touch the snake with my boot. And I pondered whether the condom would get hocked up or pooped out and decided not to chance the possibility of needing surgical removal. People don’t appear to care about the impact on wildlife at all and also don’t appear to care about the people sorting the cans.
 
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