CFTV: Tom Manning discusses how ISU is preparing for Iowa DB Desmond King
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Manning's been reading CF, I see.
A very nervous guy trying to say he's qualified for the job ...... I sure hope he shows us very soon . I trust our head coach but this one might be a huge mistake .
IMO the worst thing ISU can do is avoid throwing Kings direction. Need to pick our shots and Lanning needs to be accurate.
It does seem that way.
That said, I would like to know exactly what he was responding to. Not knowing the full context makes it difficult to know for sure.
I think a CB should be ISU's least worry. Focusing on running the ball and stopping the run should be the #1 priority
Well he's getting asked questions about a CB and he's an OC so I don't think he's going to worry about stopping the run
I did love some of the plays we did go deep . But a lot of the play calling seemed like it was very unorganized. Almost like picking plays on a video game ha ha like hey lets try this play and see if it works .
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I've heard great things about how smart of a guy he is , just kinda sucks that he's learning on the job with us and didn't come with more experience. I'm sure over time he'll figure things out . If not I hope Coach Campbell doesn't waste too many years seeing if he will work out. I'd say he gets this year to prove he can do it or move on to someone with experience.
It's been my concern with the staff from day 1. I believe Campbell has the pedigree and experience to be a successful coach at this level. But it was questionable at best to think all of these guys (including Manning) were ready for the roles they were thrown in to. Manning was a MAC OL coach a year ago. He jumped straight to P5 OC. That is almost unprecedented. And similar stories for much of the remainder of the staff. Love the energy, but very concerned they can match up with the likes of Snyder, Stoops, Strong, Patterson, etc., particularly when, in most cases, they will be playing with less talent.
Wow - being an Iowa State fan for 20+ years, I shouldn't be shocked at the amount of over-reaction by the fan base, but here I am again, surprised. This was just one game and the play -calling was not the issue. We had something like five 15+ yard runs called back because of stupid penalties. Give the staff a little time before evaluating whether they're the right fit and qualified.
Remember, we had Tom Herman as our OC back in the day and frankly didn't perform any better when he was here. Look at what Herman is doing now.
At some point, the talent needs to improve and the players have to execute. I like the direction we're going with the talent. Time will tell if execution improves.
It was just one game!
Remember, we had Tom Herman as our OC back in the day and frankly didn't perform any better when he was here. Look at what Herman is doing now.
At some point, the talent needs to improve and the players have to execute. I like the direction we're going with the talent. Time will tell if execution improves.
It was just one game!
The play calling did not cost us the game. But it was very bad. It's fair to discuss.
1. That's a fair point with manning.
2. It's not fair with the rest of the staff. We hired a head coach with the idea he'd bring his staff, so we could be one unit working together. So we were always going to have position coaches who were at s lower level. Of course that one unit staff appeared to not have ever seen a football field before last Saturday.
1. That's a fair point with manning.
2. It's not fair with the rest of the staff. We hired a head coach with the idea he'd bring his staff, so we could be one unit working together. So we were always going to have position coaches who were at s lower level. Of course that one unit staff appeared to not have ever seen a football field before last Saturday.
I guess I expected MC to be more engaged with Manning during the game. I didn't see that.
I am someone that likes to look at people in any position (coaching, business, teaching, whatever) as being worth what they make. If they are better than their salaries indicate, they will either be promoted or move on to a better paying position somewhere else. So a guy may go from smaller school position coach to a little bigger position coach to either a small school coordinator or P5 position coach. And their salaries would rise accordingly.
If you look at salaries, these guys almost all went from about $80,000/year (bottom 10% of D1 coaches) to about $200,000. Manning went from $91,000 to $350,000. Some of this could have been loyalty to a guy they were confident would get offered bigger things and would bring them along. But hard to think almost every one of them was ready for this kind of jump in their career at the same time. Manning made $91,000 a year ago. He was hired at $250,000 in December and got a $100,000 raise on January 1st because he was named OC. Almost 4 times what he made a month earlier.
Concern is there will be a LOT of learning on the job at a level which is a pretty big fast-forward for these guys. Most doing it at the same time, further complicated by playing with less talent. Heacock and Hofher have had more experience, as has Ayeni, simply by being at ISU for a year. I have less concern there.
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/sports/article_b22e6d46-bbaf-11e5-9df6-4796402d2926.html
http://www.amestrib.com/sports/football-isu-football-staff-members-make-323-million-2016
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/assistant
It's kind of funny I was saying the same stuff when Campbell hired these guys and I got ripped so bad for saying this. I support the coach and the program and that is why I want the best that our program possibly can have.
