Clemson to the Big 12???
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If we're in the same division as KU/KSU it won't be any big thing. With Mizzou/Nebraska gone they're really the only close games.
If Louisville or ND are part of the mix eventually we'll fit the footprint a little bit better than we do now. Unless Pitt or Maryland are added WVU is still going to be more of an outlier than ISU is.
From a Big 12 health point of view, I do not want any kind of ND deal for non-football sports. Selfishly it would be awesome to get us playing in basically the Chicago market since I live there. I also don't think they have a giant basketball following and it wouldn't be a tough ticket to get, it'd certainly be cheaper than a Bulls game for me.
Even Louisville would be a driving distance add for Cyclone fans in the Illinois, Indiana, Ohio area.
You are correct. Clemson's biggest rival, by far, is SC.
Agree. I don't get the love for GT at all. IMO they add a whole lot of nothing to the conference other than a closer location for FSU, Clemson, etc. No one in Atlanta cares about GT, that's SEC country. GT is not a national brand, and isn't really known for any one sport.
My point is that we would have an advantage over half of the conference that we currently do not have.
That doesn't appear to be much of a concern for the Big 12, as we have replaced four AAU members with two non-AAU members so far. Although now we can afford to be more selective.
I think the Big 12 doesn't necessarily view itself as an academic conference in the same sense as the Big Ten. And I think that's smart, because the conference at its heart is athletic. That's the reason and the purpose for the conference.
They were AAU for the whole time they were in the Big 12 and when they left us. Point is, if the Big 12 was worried about bleeding AAU schools, they didn't really do much about it by adding TCU and West Virginia.
I understand, just had to take a poke at Nebraska.
If you can survive June 2010 and September 2011, this should be a cakewalk. Those two months took three to five years off my life.
I'm as much about my ISU degree seeming prestigious nationwide as anybody, but I honestly think being part of a huge football conference means more for that than adding a few more AAU institutions. It's a silly sounding thing but I think it's true.
One of my good friends is a Vanderbilt alum and loves being part of the SEC. If we're part of a dominant football conference it means exposure and exposure is good. Nobody really knows if Colorado State or Georgia State are good, average or bad schools, but lots of people know they're somehow not big enough to be a BCS conference school.
The majority of the country outside Iowa will never know about Iowa State's strengths as a university (even some people who should know for hr purposes), but lots of people watch marquee national college sports on TV and ESPN Sports Center.
Big ten acts like they care about academics. However its all about money now. Academicw don't matter toal any conferance any more
I have a hard time seeing this. These divisions would be very unbalanced. I could see them forming the divisions kinda the way the BIG did it a couple of years ago.
I don't get all the emphasis on academics. If a potential employer looks at your resume and is dumb enough to say "Oh wait, your from a Big 12 school. Sorry, this won't work out" then that's the type of company I wouldn't want to work for.
I'm sure it's much more important within the academic world than the real world.
All this new money needs to be spent. So a really nice 2-tired $70 million SEZ financed for 30 years would cost right at $3 milllion per year. For that we should get a 60-65,000 seat stadium (maybe even extended north end toward the jumbotron) and have a solid recruitig tool to compete in the new strong Big XII or XIV ...... I like typing "Big XIV". AND have plenty of money left for competitive coaches salaries, etc. I bet if we get to a firm $30M per year conference dollars we see an announcement yet this year. Sweet.
