Let's clarify Toasted:
On Sept 1 2009 what reason would me or any other Cyclone fan have to think Gilstrap didn't have the talent to help us win more games than last year?
If that were the point that I was making I would tell you that there was reason to believe that he would get us to 8th place, not 11th.
Since that wasn't the point that I was making, it doesn't matter.
Read back through the thread. You will see that there were posters on here that were trying to position themselves with the idea that somehow these new players will be just what we needed to win games.
I was stating the fact that this is an argument that have been trying to make going on for four years now. All of the people that were going to come in and "save" the program have not panned out. I think, that instead of trying to continue on with that argument, which has continually proven to be false, we should let these recruits come in and play before we assign expectations to them.
Gilstrap was another in the list of people that was going to save the program, and show how great Mac really is as a coach. The same can be said for Laron Dendy.
Maybe this is the group, we won't know until next year. But to continue the same tired argument as a defense, and excuse, for a coach that is floundering is silly.
I hope that clears it up for you.