Coaching Search Rumors - Consolidated Thread

[BCClone]

Tired of this crap throwing. To make things easy and cheap, I'll coach for 500k a year. I coached my kids youth team a few years back and we didn't lose a game. Played against mostly spread offenses and we lit them up, once had 3 consecutive pick sixes. I grew up on the Iowa Minny border so I could recruit Iowa and Minnesota

 

[Juice]

The more research I do on Brady Hoke, the more I don't want him anywhere near Iowa State. Take a look at his head coaching record. It's like Paul Rhoads except with 2 really good seasons.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Hoke

The guy had 2 winning records in 6 seasons at Ball State and 1 at SDSU before getting the Michigan job. If he wasn't a "Michigan Man", they would have revolted at his hiring.

I would agree with the Rhoads and Hoke comparisons. Between both their demeanor and coaching style. Even the schemes they've run seem pretty similar. Given that I'm not sure he'd be the best fit because this type of scheme at ISU has struggled to win games.

However, I've noticed a lot of people mention his head coaching record and I'm not sure that's fair. I would focus more on what he's done for those programs. Both Ball State and San Diego State were in BAD situations when he took over. He didn't change the programs overnight, but he made steady improvements and after 3-4 years he had them competing for championships in their respective conferences. That's why his record is what it is. When you take over struggling programs that's going to happen. The records from the rebuilding years count too.

 

[cycub51]

Is it just me or is this coaching search a lot more tight lipped? I keep checking to see what the new development is and there is not a thing. Maybe im just being impatient, but I feel like the moment Fred was fired to the moment we hired Prohm we were constantly being fed a new rumor somebody heard (accurate or not). Jeremy, one example for instance, would post some pretty lengthy updates almost nightly about the new happenings. That isn't the case so far.

I want rumorz!

Another reason we might not be hearing as much is because lots of posters attack people who share information. Why share it if it falls on deaf ears?

 

[norcalcy]

I'll pass on the "recruiter", at least how most use that term. A good head coach that knows how to put together and execute a plan for a program will make sure he has a staff that can identify the raw talent that he can develop and utilize.

Best indicator of this skill set is someone who has won consistently, regardless the level. I have no problem with FCS or MAC or SunBelt etc. HEAD coaches who have won. Nervous about assistants, even if they have been mentored by highly successful famous head coaches.

 

[bradnjen]

Surprised there hasn't been more mention of Todd Monken. Was Mike Gundy's OC and took over a dumpster fire at Southern Miss and turned that around. Native of Wheaton,IL which I believe is a Chicago suburb.

 

[MilehighClone]

No evidence to support this

I watched enough MU games while he was the head coach to base my opinion and that is all the evidence I need. We can do better.

 

[CyValley]

. . . I want a current head coach who has won a **** load of games. . . .

It's the intangibles that will make the difference in who ISU hires, I think, and then it will still be a gamble.

Michigan hired Bo Schembechler from Miami of Ohio, a couple of years later Iowa hires Frank Lauterbur, who won a boatload of games at Toledo. Both coaches went to the Big Ten from MAC schools, both were highly successful in their Mac gigs. Bo went on to coaching fame, Lauterbur's three years in Iowa City were a big-time flop.

Coaches who win lots of games aren't necessarily the final solution to what ails a program. An indicator, sure, but there's gonna have to be a lot more that goes into the ISU hire, more than we fans can know, at least at the moment.

Like recruiting the vast majority of high school football players, we won't know what we've got, coaching-wise, until several years down the road. And what confluence of events and circumstances will the next coach face in the next half decade in Ames and in the Big 12?

Maybe we should just look for the luckiest coach alive and hope he can bring his lucky stars with him.

 

[Die4Cy]

Surprised there hasn't been more mention of Todd Monken. Was Mike Gundy's OC and took over a dumpster fire at Southern Miss and turned that around. Native of Wheaton,IL which I believe is a Chicago suburb.

You don't hear much about Monken because he is likely a top target.

 

[Tre4ISU]

I would agree with the Rhoads and Hoke comparisons. Between both their demeanor and coaching style. Even the schemes they've run seem pretty similar. Given that I'm not sure he'd be the best fit because this type of scheme at ISU has struggled to win games.

However, I've noticed a lot of people mention his head coaching record and I'm not sure that's fair. I would focus more on what he's done for those programs. Both Ball State and San Diego State were in BAD situations when he took over. He didn't change the programs overnight, but he made steady improvements and after 3-4 years he had them competing for championships in their respective conferences. That's why his record is what it is. When you take over struggling programs that's going to happen. The records from the rebuilding years count too.

Yeah, he had one championship in those 8 years. He's just not that good of a coach.

 

[CyFan61]

You don't hear much about Monken because he is likely a top target.

This is my hope too. Pollard going back to the old smoke screens. The only thing that gives me pause is that the basketball search worked nothing like that.

Monken would be a home run.

*26 years of coaching experience
*Four years as an OC, including Oklahoma State in 2011 where they went 12-1
*Four years in the NFL as a position coach
*Midwestern guy (from Illinois) with Big 12 experience
*Now in his third year as a head coach at a program with these records:

2012: 0-12
--Monken takes over between 12/13--
2013: 1-11
2014: 3-9
2015: 8-3

Let's get Doc Sadler to head across campus at Southern Miss and talk with Todd about Ames and the fans at ISU.

 

[thatguy]

a name people are forgetting is Coach Ed Gennero. He took a historically bad program and won some games, is great at QB development and is an outside the box thinker when it comes to recruiting. He is a little bit older and has some health issues, but I think he is a guy that could straighten this thing out.

 

[Die4Cy]

This is my hope too. Pollard going back to the old smoke screens. The only thing that gives me pause is that the basketball search worked nothing like that.

Monken would be a home run.

*26 years of coaching experience
*Four years as an OC, including Oklahoma State in 2011 where they went 12-1
*Four years in the NFL as a position coach
*Midwestern guy (from Illinois) with Big 12 experience
*Now in his third year as a head coach at a program with these records:

2012: 0-12
--Monken takes over between 12/13--
2013: 1-11
2014: 3-9
2015: 8-3

Let's get Doc Sadler to head across campus at Southern Miss and talk with Todd about Ames and the fans at ISU.

This is a guy who will probably have a host of options as a P5 head coach next year. Going to take quite a sales job by JP as I am sure there are going to be other offers that analysts believe would be better for Monken. At least Monken knows personally that ISU isn't some coaching graveyard having witnessed it. Maybe he has a real desire to get back to the Big 12 as well, which would obviously favor ISU this year.

 

[andybernard]

It's the intangibles that will make the difference in who ISU hires, I think, and then it will still be a gamble.

Michigan hired Bo Schembechler from Miami of Ohio, a couple of years later Iowa hires Frank Lauterbur, who won a boatload of games at Toledo. Both coaches went to the Big Ten from MAC schools, both were highly successful in their Mac gigs. Bo went on to coaching fame, Lauterbur's three years in Iowa City were a big-time flop.

Coaches who win lots of games aren't necessarily the final solution to what ails a program. An indicator, sure, but there's gonna have to be a lot more that goes into the ISU hire, more than we fans can know, at least at the moment.

Like recruiting the vast majority of high school football players, we won't know what we've got, coaching-wise, until several years down the road. And what confluence of events and circumstances will the next coach face in the next half decade in Ames and in the Big 12?

Maybe we should just look for the luckiest coach alive and hope he can bring his lucky stars with him.

You heard it here first...Ferentz it is!

 

[CyValley]

Another Stitt recommendation. The other day, it was SB Nation urging ISU follow the unorthodox route. Today, it's ESPN's Max Olson:

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/p...ion-should-iowa-state-go-with-coaching-search

". . . K-State and Baylor got out of the Big 12 cellar because they found innovators. That’s what Iowa State needs right now. Easier said than done, I know, but here’s one guy Jamie Pollard should consider: Montana’s Bob Stitt.

"To me, the fit is obvious. He’s an offensive wizard. He’s from the Midwest. He’d bring an exciting brand of football. He’d be exceptionally affordable (Stitt makes $175,000 a year right now). And if you can convince kids to play at Colorado School of Mines, you can probably sell Ames.

"The Cyclones should have a bowl-caliber roster in 2016 with several exciting young pieces -- Mike Warren, Allen Lazard and Joel Lanning -- on offense. They just need that innovator."

 

[CyValley]

You heard it here first...Ferentz it is!

Didn't see that one coming ;-)

 

[Die4Cy]

Monken's USM team is 8th in FBS in total offense, 28th in total defense in 2015. USM and Georgia Southern shows up relatively frequently in the upper statistical categories of FBS. Sign of good coaching, or teams that are just head and shoulders above their competition? The drop off is precipitous in C-USA, much more than in the MAC, IMO.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

Another Stitt recommendation. The other day, it was SB Nation urging ISU follow the unorthodox route. Today, it's ESPN's Max Olson:

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/p...ion-should-iowa-state-go-with-coaching-search

. . . K-State and Baylor got out of the Big 12 cellar because they found innovators. That’s what Iowa State needs right now. Easier said than done, I know, but here’s one guy Jamie Pollard should consider: Montana’s Bob Stitt.

To me, the fit is obvious. He’s an offensive wizard. He’s from the Midwest. He’d bring an exciting brand of football. He’d be exceptionally affordable (Stitt makes $175,000 a year right now). And if you can convince kids to play at Colorado School of Mines, you can probably sell Ames.

The Cyclones should have a bowl-caliber roster in 2016 with several exciting young pieces -- Mike Warren, Allen Lazard and Joel Lanning -- on offense. They just need that innovator.

Stitt is fine, but his reputation would have to bring him some coaches that can compete and recruit in the Big 12. He has a cult following and seems like a fit personality wise, but my question is if he has the connections to get a Big 12 caliber staff.

 

[CyValley]

Stitt is fine, but his reputation would have to bring him some coaches that can compete and recruit in the Big 12. He has a cult following and seems like a fit personality wise, but my question is if he has the connections to get a Big 12 caliber staff.

Apparently, he's known throughout the coaching profession as an innovator/tinkerer extraordinaire, including the NFL as well as the FBS division. I can't imagine that there would not be many, many applicants for assistantships on an Iowa State Stitt Staff (say that three times as fast as you can ;-) not only to work with the man but also coach in the Big 12.

Me, I'm willing to see what Stitt can do at ISU.

 

[ThatllDoCy]

Apparently, he's known throughout the coaching profession as an innovator/tinkerer extraordinaire, including the NFL as well as the FBS division. I can't imagine that there would not be many, many applicants for assistantships on an Iowa State Stitt Staff (say that three times as fast as you can ;-) not only to work with the man but also coach in the Big 12.

Me, I'm willing to see what Stitt can do at ISU.

If he can come in and impress Pollard with his vision for the program I would welcome him aboard, and while I don't think ISU needs to be gimmicky, I am in no way opposed to innovation.

 

[Die4Cy]

Another Stitt piece, sorry if already posted:

http://www.sbnation.com/college-foo...bob-stitt-coach-offense-colorado-school-mines