Colorado game = worst game of CPR era?

[ISUCyclone06]

They surely do help us. Wind will even out the game, a game we will once again as most of the season be outmanned. Gibbert is a good quarterback with good receivers, you take away or hamper that throwing game and you close the talent gap. To say the atmosphere and weather does not help us is ludacris.

 

[jdoggivjc]

I did not bring Chizik into this or compare him to CPR - you did. I will say that Chizik did not lose the game that night on his own. Maybe factored 10% into it. All I was pointing out was that the previous poster thought those factors helped us. They do not

The last Missouri game at home 2 years ago was one game left, a home game, Senior night and was a very cold windy night. We were thumped

Kind of hard NOT to bring Chizik into it when you bring up the last game of his tenure at ISU, when it was clear he had mentally checked out despite how "firmly entrenched" he was. Yeah, not many others showed up for that game, either. But if Chizik's head isn't in the game, do you really think anyone else's is going to be?

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

I believe that game 2 years ago ended 28-24 so we were in it and gave ourselves a shot. But this year is different there is more on the line and I believe our players know that... not sure where that was this week but I'm on to Missouri now.

The result that night was Missouri 52 - ISU 20

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[ca4cy]

Never has a Paul Rhoads coached team came out as unprepared and unemotional against a team with similar talent. Outcoached and outplayed. CPR is all about passion, if he can bring that 12 games a season and not half the season, this team will be good going forward. We need to remember this is only his second year as a head coach.

I don't necessarily agree with this. PR certainly coaches with emotion, but to say he is all about it sells him short as he puts a lot of pride in his and his coaching staff's preparation. I've also heard him talk about not being too emotional and eliminating the highs and lows that can come with it. He has the pulse of the team much more than us internet quarterbacks. Maybe he felt that a bunch of rah-rah wasn't the answer, or maybe he tried it and it didn't take.

Your second bolded point is one that needs to be emphasized. Even the best and most experienced coaches struggle with preventing a physical and emotional hangover coming off a game like Nebby.

To the original question, yes, I believe this was the worst performance by a PR coached team at ISU. No debate that the CU game was a giant floater and I'm guessing the players and coaches would tell you much the same thing behind the scenes. There's blame to go around to all involved. I'll put my trust in all of those same individuals that we'll see something much better against Mizzou.

 

[ISUCyclone06]

Ouch I was thinking last years game which was 34-24 it looks... Either way mood point. Go ISU I want to go bowling and believe we have a shot.

 

[clonomaniac]

The last Missouri game at home 2 years ago was one game left, a home game, Senior night and was a very cold windy night. We were thumped

I was at that game. It was so painful to watch, I left before the half. Chizik gave me every reason to give up on Cyclone football altogether and I hate to admit it. Paul Rhoads gives me every reason to make this trip to Ames this Saturday but I am hesitant because of last week's showdown.

I don't know if Paul Rhoads is still hung up on the Nebraska loss but if I were him I would be very careful. Losing to Colorado is the worst thing you can do to your resume. Its almost like ***** slapping a cop just to get into prison. I am sorry but I am hurting from this loss. Rhoads usually wins winnable games. If Rhoads' team does not show up to play this Saturday and lose to Missouri in a beatdown fashion I honestly do not see this coaching staff getting contract extension. The money is tight, and we just cannot afford to keep coaches who are less prepared than the kids.

Now, if Arnaud was not hurt, I wouldn't be so upset. This kid gave his best. I watched the replay of him getting hurt.

I guess one good thing about last week's loss is we won't lose anyone of our coaching staff to any other school.

Oh and about the Missouri game, I would run the bowl every down. Missouri doesn't have a solid run defense. They SUCK! But, what do I know. It all depends on whather Rhoads and company show up to coach.

 

[CycoCyclone]

Don't kid yourselves, CU had better talent on their side of the ball.

That being said, we got out-"everything" on Sat. Out-coached was the most obvious

 

[cyclones500]

I can't say for sure, performance-wise, if this was the worst.

I couldn't pick up the CU game in Michigan, but did watch the Utah game (until I couldn't stand it anymore) and wasn't able to see the OU game (which, after the Utah game, didn't upset me too much).

But as far as results, this was the most disheartening, with bowl eligibility on the line, then getting rolled.

It's too early to spot trends under Rhoads, but a notable blemish is managing to provide the sole victory for a Big 12 North team (KU last year, and possibly CU this season, unless the Buffies truly have caught fire and beat KSU this week ... let's hope). (There are positive micro-trends, too)

This is a key week for Rhoads, to see if the team can bounce back. A bowl is there for the taking, plus a tie for 3rd in the North (possibly sole possession of it, if CU can give us help). Remember, a lot of experts picked ISU 6th.

 

[Clones33]

Don't kid yourselves, CU had better talent on their side of the ball.

That being said, we got out-"everything" on Sat. Out-coached was the most obvious

Agreed. 100%

 

[d4nim4l]

Colorado does have more talent than us and they have the last few years. Fact is we did get out coached like others have said. Colorado got their guys motivated and we did not. Colorado brought blitzes from every place on the field and we failed to adjust.

The most disappointing part of the game for me was watching the complete failure to adjust on offense. Wally did a good job generating something for the defense and only a few calls went the wrong way because of execution. However, Herman completely and utterly did nothing to stem the pass rush from Colorado or make their linebackers pay for playing two yards from the line of scrimmage.

 

[Havs]

This is the first game we should have won that he has lost, and he lost it badly...

 

[clonomaniac]

This is the first game we should have won that he has lost, and he lost it badly...

I cant wait for the presser. I want to see what Rhoads has to say to cover up his mess.

 

[clone51]

The seeds of this loss were planted in the first half hour after the Nebraska loss.
That small window of time is where CPR had his worst moments of coaching while here. It probably cost us a bowl. Hopefully, the damage ends there.

 

[ca4cy]

I cant wait for the presser. I want to see what Rhoads has to say to cover up his mess.

Really? He doesn't strike me as the kind of coach that's going to cover up anything. My guess is he'll address the game in a straight forward manner, just like he does everything else.

 

[RayShimley]

The seeds of this loss were planted in the first half hour after the Nebraska loss.
That small window of time is where CPR had his worst moments of coaching while here. It probably cost us a bowl. Hopefully, the damage ends there.

?? Please elaborate.

 

[ca4cy]

The seeds of this loss were planted in the first half hour after the Nebraska loss.
That small window of time is where CPR had his worst moments of coaching while here. It probably cost us a bowl. Hopefully, the damage ends there.

Please explain.

 

[clonomaniac]

Really? He doesn't strike me as the kind of coach that's going to cover up anything. My guess is he'll address the game in a straight forward manner, just like he does everything else.

Keep in mind, he told the media that coaching the Colorado game would be "THE BIGGEST GAME" him and his coaching staff had coached since they got here (in Ames). Look it up. It sounds all BS to me now.

 

[clone51]

He should have held the team responsible for their failure to execute. It was a time to be a hard-***. He wasn't.

Although it wasn't explicitly said, the message was that almost is good enough. The team heard it, internalized it and you saw the results in Boulder.

 

[NobodyBeatsCy]

He should have held the team responsible for their failure to execute. It was a time to be a hard-***. He wasn't.

Although it wasn't explicitly said, the message was that almost is good enough. The team heard it, internalized it and you saw the results in Boulder.

That's quite a bit of psycho-mumbo-jumbo and mind reading

 

[ca4cy]

He should have held the team responsible for their failure to execute. It was a time to be a hard-***. He wasn't.

Although it wasn't explicitly said, the message was that almost is good enough. The team heard it, internalized it and you saw the results in Boulder.

If you look up "How to lose your team in 10 seconds", entry 1A in the manual would be publicly blasting them for not executing after a gut wrenching loss like Nebraska. He stood by his guys and they stood by them. I liked the mindset coming off the Nebraska game.

Now, if you want to criticize the coaching staff for not having the team prepared for Colorado in and of themselves, I'd tend to agree. Something went wrong during the week, but I don't think the Colorado game was lost in the minutes following the Nebraska game. Nebraska was a knock down, drag out, 60 minute heavyweight fight. The CU result may be as simple as the team being too physically and emotionally drained to beat a talented but to date, underachieving team on the road.