Hope and pray for the Big 10. Otherwise Pac. People keep talking about playing late night games on the coast. Well, firstly, most of our conference games will be with Okie State, KSU, Tech, etc.. Those west coast teams have to come here too. So when it's all said and done, there may be two games a year where we are playing late at night. I mean we get 6 home games. Some of our road games will be against the Midwest part of the Pac anyway.
We will at some point be put in the place of having to decide between accepting a PAC offer on the table, and pursuing a B1G offer that ISU thinks is attainable but may not come on our time frame.
A lot of ISU fans won't sign up for a streaming service but more would sign up than Rutgers. That being said, Rutgers sets the bar pretty low.I'm not sure of that. I'd like to believe you're right, but there was a ton of pissing and moaning on this board when ISU had games moved to ESPNPlus last year and it appears Cyclones.TV never really got the numbers they wanted. Seems like a whole bunch of people wouldn't sign up - and that's of a subset of population of our fans who go to "CycloneFanatic". What do the non-"fanatics" do? We like to believe we have a large and growing fan base, but where are the actual numbers? There's a whole bunch of cheap skates on this board who won't even sign up to support the site.
Prove me wrong everyone, prove me wrong! When the time comes to sign-up for those streaming services everyone needs to do so in the new world to show the interest ISU truly generates.
If it comes down to that scenario, sign me up for a PAC offer. A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush, right? I love the idea of the Big Ten as a landing place as well, and that would be a better fit on so many levels than the PAC, but I'm not sure how realistic it is.
Fascinating time. Hope the Big Ten powers that be see all the positive things about ISU that we all see.
I think the bad take this is common is "no team that delivers less than $55-60 mil is going to be added, as that's the per team payout.
That's a per team payout, meaning approximately half the teams in the Big 10 and SEC don't deliver that. If there is any sort of selective, break away that only includes 30 or so teams, conference affiliations aren't going to mean squat. That means every non-blueblood would be in high risk of being relegated to a have-nots league.
That $55-60 mil value thinking makes sense from the conference and schools' perspectives. But guess what? They make almost ALL their money from media rights. And the media companies don't get to worry about per team revenue, they have to think about total revenue. So they are writing the checks, meaning the media companies are the ones that actually have the power. Not the SEC and Big 10.
Let's say Disney (ABC, Disney+, ESPN) is going to buy the rights to all the games for whatever big boy league there is. While 12 games per week in a blueblood only league might be highly profitable on a per game basis, as long as a game is reasonably profitable due to subscriptions and ad revenue, they will want that too. So is ISU-Oklahoma State as profitable as Florida-Georgia? Of course not. But ISU-Okie Light is profitable to show, so they are going to want that inventory. Does having ISU-Okie State relegated to a league of have-nots probably flip it to be unprofitable? Probably.
So Disney would much rather have a 60 team league with a bunch of games that have a range of profitability (as long as they ARE profitable) rather than only having a 24 team league with high profit margin per game. They get the best of both worlds in a bigger league.
There will be incredible pressure from the guys writing the checks (media) that as many teams as possible are included in a breakaway league as long as they can make a profit on showing that teams games.
50% of this board still thinks conferences are out looking for better matchups and better rivalry games instead of money even though people have been ditching rivalry games for the last 15 years.That logic is totally false lol
I understand it's a mean, and not a median. But this is absolutely not false. If a media contract payout is $60 million per team, the average value the teams in that conference are perceived to deliver to the media companies is $60 million.That logic is totally false lol
We would go there if it happened. There’s no way they would leave for the Big 12.Pollard's best friend in the industry is the Oregon AD. Not enough people are talking about that.
If the remaining 8 Big 12 schools can add Oregon, Oregon St, Arizona, Arizona St, Colorado and Utah.. That's pretty good.
We will at some point be put in the place of having to decide between accepting a PAC offer on the table, and pursuing a B1G offer that ISU thinks is attainable but may not come on our time frame.
At stake will be hundreds of millions of dollars for ISU athletics. What does JP do?
I just know its not MidWest...In context of Pac, wouldn't it be "Wild East"?![]()
In reality, the process is:what is the process for this?
TX and OU buy out the Big12 to leave for the SEC.
Remaining teams cash the check?
Do the remaining teams dissolve the B12, and get paid from the buyout?
Remaining teams are clear to enter into other conferences, per new agreement, without a buyout?
So Disney would much rather have a 60 team league with a bunch of games that have a range of profitability (as long as they ARE profitable) rather than only having a 24 team league with high profit margin per game. They get the best of both worlds in a bigger league.
then negotiated down.In reality, the process is:
Texas, OU, and SEC sue to get out of the buyout.
The rest of the Big 12 countersues to enforce the buyout.
???
TBDthen negotiated down.
when would the change of schedules take place? 22? 23? 24?
A lot of ISU fans won't sign up for a streaming service but more would sign up than Rutgers. That being said, Rutgers sets the bar pretty low.