Lets play:
Eastern Kentucky
Kent State
UMass
Missouri State
and on and on
Bill Snyder has been very successful with talent very similar to ISU. He knows exactly how to use and coach his kids. He, in my opinion, is the best coach of all time. Just imagine what he could do with Alabama talent.
You are going to have a lot of programs that will compare similarly when you compare Snyder's 20-something year in the program to a coach's first years in a program.
He's a great coach but it is a silly comparison to make. Why not try comparing to Snyder's first four years?
1-10
5-6
7-4
5-6
Yup, looks pretty similar.
Even with their loss tonight. I just find that interesting. I'd like to see a discussion about what makes this possible. Is Snyder really just that good of a coach, or does Kansas State have some institutional advantages over Iowa State in athletics (better strength and conditioning department, perhaps)? Or, just react emotionally and attack me personally in a barrage of censored profanities, I don't care.
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First four years as a head coach, Snyder and Rhoads compared:
Record SOS (Big 8 + four soft non-con games)
Snyder
1-10 -.38
5-6 -.10
7-4 +.73
5-6 -.98
18-26 .409 -.18
Rhoads
7-6 -.73
5-7 4.27
6-7 7.35
6-7 6.19
24-27 .471 4.27
Snyder has had 21 years as a head coach to learn and improve himself in the coaching profession, Rhoads but four years. Rhoads' first four years at ISU is a superior record to Snyder's first four years at KSU, more wins in a tougher conference (and now round-robin), and a far more difficult non-con schedule. Snyder, though, picked up the reins of a program worse off than ISU's in 2009, one can argue easily.
Give our guy a break. Give him a chance like KSU gave Snyder a chance. Why should we do less than KSU did, for gawd's sake?
(Snyder is a great coach, but it took time for him to get there. I want to give CPR time to do the same for ISU, to see what CPR can do for the Cyclones. It takes time to build a program, block by block, when you're KSU or ISU.)
W-L | Pct. | SOS |
1-10 | -.38 | |
5-6 | -.10 | |
7-4 | +.73 | |
5-6 | -.98 | |
18-26 | .409 | -.18 avg |
W-L | Pct. | SOS |
7-6 | -.73 | |
5-7 | 4.27 | |
6-7 | 7.35 | |
6-7 | 6.19 | |
24-27 | .471 | 4.27 avg. |
Top 10? Boy, I could make a strong case for number one. The only hangup I have is that we can't tell how he would do at a big time school with high expectations. You look at Nick Saban and he's done it everywhere. Urban Meyer has done it everywhere. There is a certain amount of BS you have to put up with at those schools. Nick Saban probably just tells guys to "**** off, I'm Saban and I will win so you have no leverage." Could Snyder handle that? I don't know. Rich Rodriguez couldn't. A lot of guys haven't been able to. As far as turning programs around, Snyder is measuring stick. He's done it twice.
Even with their loss tonight. I just find that interesting. I'd like to see a discussion about what makes this possible. Is Snyder really just that good of a coach, or does Kansas State have some institutional advantages over Iowa State in athletics (better strength and conditioning department, perhaps)? Or, just react emotionally and attack me personally in a barrage of censored profanities, I don't care.
Who couldn't succeed at Alabama?
Even with their loss tonight. I just find that interesting. I'd like to see a discussion about what makes this possible. Is Snyder really just that good of a coach, or does Kansas State have some institutional advantages over Iowa State in athletics (better strength and conditioning department, perhaps)? Or, just react emotionally and attack me personally in a barrage of censored profanities, I don't care.
Lets play:
Eastern Kentucky
Kent State
UMass
Missouri State
and on and on
It is interesting (and hopeful for ISU fans) in view of the fact that CPR's winning percentage is better than Snyder's was over their first four years of coaching (47% to 41%).