Stopped reading here. You only said this to justify the Jok "penalty".
To build on this, I wonder what this guy thinks about the Thomas suspension?
Stopped reading here. You only said this to justify the Jok "penalty".
Seems to me that Fred should be looking for a way to get BDJ (and Nader I suppose) out of that Apt and someplace a little more ... lenient, isolated, controllable etc.
In no way am I excusing BDJ in this - just change the dynamic at play here.
I really don't understand why people are automatically writing off this team even without BDJ.
I think that Matt White character is gonna regret hugely that he gave his name out.
His Facebook was just deleted 2min ago...
Sharing my opinion just like everyone else. I've even made it clear twice now that I thought Jok should have been suspended for his incidents. I'm not letting bias get in the way here.
BDJ isn't going to learn anything if he continues to be allowed to do whatever he pleases at the expense of those around him. I think the right thing to do is suspend him for a couple games just like I thought with Jok. However, selfishly I'd rather see BDJ play. Will be much more entertaining to watch the two teams play at full strength. No excuses necessary.
What does it matter? He was OVER the limit. Not hard to understand. There have been many previous issues as well as defacing property. Not really surprising knowing BDJ's past.
So let me get this straight, a ISU wrestler was the guy that turned in BDJ? Un-bleeping-believable.
Ok, let me clarify- I do think Jok should have gotten a lengthier suspension (2-3 games). I honestly feel that way. The point I was making is you cant let DeJean Jones off like he is a first time offender, because the baggage he has isnt one of an incoming freshman, or first timer.
Also, gosh, some of you are REALLY thinned skinned. I welcome Clones to the hawk board. Its nice to hear opinions outside of the bubble of your team. Especially ribsnwiskey. How about instead of just cussing at someone like some ****** off 4 year old who just dropped their sucker on the ground, you actually articulate the way you feel, and we can have a conversation.
He probably deserves some sort of suspension, the crap he was doing over and over again was just stupid.
Ok, let me clarify- I do think Jok should have gotten a lengthier suspension (2-3 games). I honestly feel that way. The point I was making is you cant let DeJean Jones off like he is a first time offender, because the baggage he has isnt one of an incoming freshman, or first timer.
Also, gosh, some of you are REALLY thinned skinned. I welcome Clones to the hawk board. Its nice to hear opinions outside of the bubble of your team. Especially ribsnwiskey. How about instead of just cussing at someone like some ****** off 4 year old who just dropped their sucker on the ground, you actually articulate the way you feel, and we can have a conversation.
No idea if it's same Matt White, but wrestlers and bball players usually don't get along in Ames.
What the **** is this? it sounds like he doesn't even have a clue what he was talking about .
Actually I'd prefer he play. You guys already have enough excuses lined up in case you lose. Wouldn't want to give you another one.
Luckily I sent him a message before he deleted it!!!!
Luckily I sent him a message before he deleted it!!!!
Oh look ribsnwhiskey stoops to namecalling because he has nothing intelligent to add. PAAAAR for the course.
I'll say this for Matt White. He has balls. He didn't have to say a word but when the Daily tracked him down he gave a reasonable, well-spoken explanation of what he did, why he did it, and the background that led up to it. Probably knowing full well there would be idiots on message boards calling him everything in the book for doing it.
If what has been reported so far is accurate, neither Matt White nor the Ames PD did anything wrong. If BDJ is so difficult that after repeated warnings and hours from a big game he can't use common sense and be a better neighbor, he deserves whatever he gets (which is going to be what, a one game suspension at most?).
It's a shame he let his teammates down.
Luckily I sent him a message before he deleted it!!!!