Devries:
First of all, I went to undergrad with him and used to play against him during the off season. So, I'll always root for him.
System: I think he runs a good system, but systems take 3-4 years to build without notable talent.
Recruiting:
Can he get that talent in quick enough before we declare him the next McDermott/Prohm that everyone hates?
Has he brought in any high level recruits to Drake? I think he's had some decent transfers, and obviously his son looks legit. Would he be able to get Omaha B to come to ISU? Are there other high level players on his son's AAU team he could snag quickly?
My Assessment: He is a good X/O's coach and has a system that can succeed if not extremely out-talented. It will all come down to whether he gets some early recruiting wins or can bring in a stud assistant recruiter or two. If he does, I think we'll like what we see. If he doesn't, I see him being the next former ISU coach doing well at a Big East / Mountain West level school.
TJ:
System: I echo the sentiments of a few others that I'm not as sure on TJ's system.
In the SDSU/UNLV games I've seen, I see some positives and negatives.
It does remind me a fair amount of Fred's old system. That has its strengths and weaknesses as evidenced by how Nebraska is doing with arguably a more talented roster than ours.
TJ had success with Daum at SDSU, but he was one of the top players in his conference.
This is only his first year, but UNLV hasn't been very impressive.
My instinct is that the Hoiberg/TJ system requires a certain level of talent (especially driving, passing and shooting) to work effectively, such that bringing in very high level, skilled and selfless players are needed to succeed.
Recruiting: He has had an amazing career as a recruiting guru assistant. Will that translate as a head coach?
Did he land any uniquely high level talent at SDSU (Daum was inherited)?
He does have strong connections across the US, but mainly in the upper Midwest.
I do think his Wisconsin recruiting ties would give us the best chance at keeping Hunter, but I'm not sure it'll be enough how much Hunter is blowing up.
While he has landed some really talented players at UNLV for next year, I both discount that somewhat due to the UNLV $/ Rashad Vaughn impact and because I don't see any of those players following TJ to ISU.
Also, will he have the same recruiting issues that Prohm has had? Will his recruits that have the skill sets to play his scheme be selfish or unwilling defenders? Will he only be able to get the great athletes that can't shoot? Will he be able to replenish the talent pool when unanticipated transfers and (fingers crossed) early draft entrants happen?
My Analysis:
Based on results alone, he would not be a hot commodity outside of Ames in the off season, and hiring him just seems eerily like Auburn hiring Chizik. If he can keep the talent here and/or bring some of the UNLV talent that fits his system to ISU, he could be very successful. If he can't keep our talent and he doesn't get new talent that fits his system's skill set needs in the first two recruiting classes, we'll find ourselves in the same place we are now in 3-4 years.
Comparison:
I think Devries has a better system that could translate into long term success, but it may take longer for him to get the recruiting up to snuff. I think TJ has a better chance of getting / keeping higher level recruits early, but his system will need a higher level of recruiting to maintain success over time.
First of all, I went to undergrad with him and used to play against him during the off season. So, I'll always root for him.
System: I think he runs a good system, but systems take 3-4 years to build without notable talent.
Recruiting:
Can he get that talent in quick enough before we declare him the next McDermott/Prohm that everyone hates?
Has he brought in any high level recruits to Drake? I think he's had some decent transfers, and obviously his son looks legit. Would he be able to get Omaha B to come to ISU? Are there other high level players on his son's AAU team he could snag quickly?
My Assessment: He is a good X/O's coach and has a system that can succeed if not extremely out-talented. It will all come down to whether he gets some early recruiting wins or can bring in a stud assistant recruiter or two. If he does, I think we'll like what we see. If he doesn't, I see him being the next former ISU coach doing well at a Big East / Mountain West level school.
TJ:
System: I echo the sentiments of a few others that I'm not as sure on TJ's system.
In the SDSU/UNLV games I've seen, I see some positives and negatives.
It does remind me a fair amount of Fred's old system. That has its strengths and weaknesses as evidenced by how Nebraska is doing with arguably a more talented roster than ours.
TJ had success with Daum at SDSU, but he was one of the top players in his conference.
This is only his first year, but UNLV hasn't been very impressive.
My instinct is that the Hoiberg/TJ system requires a certain level of talent (especially driving, passing and shooting) to work effectively, such that bringing in very high level, skilled and selfless players are needed to succeed.
Recruiting: He has had an amazing career as a recruiting guru assistant. Will that translate as a head coach?
Did he land any uniquely high level talent at SDSU (Daum was inherited)?
He does have strong connections across the US, but mainly in the upper Midwest.
I do think his Wisconsin recruiting ties would give us the best chance at keeping Hunter, but I'm not sure it'll be enough how much Hunter is blowing up.
While he has landed some really talented players at UNLV for next year, I both discount that somewhat due to the UNLV $/ Rashad Vaughn impact and because I don't see any of those players following TJ to ISU.
Also, will he have the same recruiting issues that Prohm has had? Will his recruits that have the skill sets to play his scheme be selfish or unwilling defenders? Will he only be able to get the great athletes that can't shoot? Will he be able to replenish the talent pool when unanticipated transfers and (fingers crossed) early draft entrants happen?
My Analysis:
Based on results alone, he would not be a hot commodity outside of Ames in the off season, and hiring him just seems eerily like Auburn hiring Chizik. If he can keep the talent here and/or bring some of the UNLV talent that fits his system to ISU, he could be very successful. If he can't keep our talent and he doesn't get new talent that fits his system's skill set needs in the first two recruiting classes, we'll find ourselves in the same place we are now in 3-4 years.
Comparison:
I think Devries has a better system that could translate into long term success, but it may take longer for him to get the recruiting up to snuff. I think TJ has a better chance of getting / keeping higher level recruits early, but his system will need a higher level of recruiting to maintain success over time.
