End of January Update Coach Prohm

What to do with Coach Prohm

  • Fire Prohm now

    Votes: 77 19.8%
  • Fire Prohm at the end of the year

    Votes: 251 64.7%
  • Give Prohm one more year

    Votes: 52 13.4%
  • Prohm is doing a good job

    Votes: 8 2.1%

  • Total voters
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cb1030

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I think the thing I’m most worried about is a scenario where we keep him for another year because of covid , and then next year we show some mild improvement with nothing real to show for it like a tournament appearance. I could see the powers that be give him yet another rebuilding year while we continue to see our brand diminish. It would be that much harder to get a quality coach to turn things around.
 
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What makes you think TJ would be a good hire? I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he would be any better than Prohm. UNLV is looking worse year 1 to year 2. Very Prohm-esque.

Yeah I'm with you here.

I haven't seen a damn thing from TJ that makes me go, "Oh, yes. Him!"

Outside of the connection he has with being an assistant and having a wife thats been within the program.. I don't see it.

I'd choose DeVries over TJ 100/100 based off of what they've done @ their head coaching positions.

Personally, I still think we need a proven P5 coach and not go the mid-major route.
 

BillBrasky4Cy

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I think the thing I’m most worried about is a scenario where we keep him for another year because of covid , and then next year we show some mild improvement with nothing real to show for it like a tournament appearance. I could see the powers that be give him yet another rebuilding year while we continue to see our brand diminish. It would be that much harder to get a quality coach to turn things around.

It's well documented that I'm a Prohm apologist but this just isn't going to happen. There is no way JP can bring him back at this point. The majority of the fan base has been lost and recruiting would absolutely tank.
 

Clonefan32

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I think the thing I’m most worried about is a scenario where we keep him for another year because of covid , and then next year we show some mild improvement with nothing real to show for it like a tournament appearance. I could see the powers that be give him yet another rebuilding year while we continue to see our brand diminish. It would be that much harder to get a quality coach to turn things around.

I was having a conversation with someone about this the other day. What would it take to restore faith in him? Personally, it would have to be at least a 2 year sustained run with us being in the top half of the Big 12 and in the NCAA tournament. I'm not up for showing marginal improvement and pretending we can forget about 3 out of the last 4 years.
 

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What makes you think TJ would be a good hire? I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he would be any better than Prohm. UNLV is looking worse year 1 to year 2. Very Prohm-esque.

That's comically dumb.
TJ may or may not be great, but they aren't trending towards a 2 win season.
Prohm is his own category of legendarily bad coaching here. Nobody compares to what he's done.
 

BillBrasky4Cy

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What makes you think TJ would be a good hire? I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he would be any better than Prohm. UNLV is looking worse year 1 to year 2. Very Prohm-esque.
Yeah I'm with you here.

I haven't seen a damn thing from TJ that makes me go, "Oh, yes. Him!"

Outside of the connection he has with being an assistant and having a wife thats been within the program.. I don't see it.

I'd choose DeVries over TJ 100/100 based off of what they've done @ their head coaching positions.

Personally, I still think we need a proven P5 coach and not go the mid-major route.
TJ knows what it takes to win at Iowa State. His teams would also have an identity, which has honestly been Prohms biggest downfall. TJ is a solid offensive mind and he would make Cyclones hoops exciting to watch.
 
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I am amazed at the continual TJ hype on the board. He took a stacked SDSU program and did fine.

SDSU Basketball W/L

Now, he has UNLV about where he inherited the program

UNLV Basketball W/L

Now let's check Drake. Drake? Drake.

Drake Basketball W/L

I'll gladly take DeVries thank you.

Yeah I don't disagree with you but I also think both would be good hires for Iowa State. I personally would take DeVries first but I just don't think it will happen.
 

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I was having a conversation with someone about this the other day. What would it take to restore faith in him? Personally, it would have to be at least a 2 year sustained run with us being in the top half of the Big 12 and in the NCAA tournament. I'm not up for showing marginal improvement and pretending we can forget about 3 out of the last 4 years.

Related to that reminds me of something I posted about Rhoads, toward the end of the line, in summary: What the coach would need to accomplish to regain fan confidence and program footing is unrealistic, based on track record.

(I think I got some Dislikes when I posted that, for some reason. People might have misunderstood what I meant.)
 

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I am amazed at the continual TJ hype on the board. He took a stacked SDSU program and did fine.

SDSU Basketball W/L

Now, he has UNLV about where he inherited the program

UNLV Basketball W/L

Now let's check Drake. Drake? Drake.

Drake Basketball W/L

I'll gladly take DeVries thank you.

Only one game, but watching the thumping UNLV took from Nevada last night, I worry about TJ as well. Yes, he can recruit, but we've been down that road.
 

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Only one game, but watching the thumping UNLV took from Nevada last night, I worry about TJ as well. Yes, he can recruit, but we've down that road.

TJ walked into a successful program with a generational player. He should have won there.

we aren’t going to get to see whether or not he can get unlv going since he will have left there after his second year.

he will get all kinds of goodwill from the fans though, and that will buy him at least 3 years before anyone starts questioning anything he does.
 

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TJ knows what it takes to win at Iowa State. His teams would also have an identity, which has honestly been Prohms biggest downfall. TJ is a solid offensive mind and he would make Cyclones hoops exciting to watch.

That's subjective.

UNLV is 114th in Offensive Efficiency per KenPom. 74th last year.

His recruiting rankings aren't terrible, but its much easier to recruit a kid to Vegas than it is Ames, IA.

I just don't see the X's and O's that get me excited.
 

Neptune78

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TJ walked into a successful program with a generational player. He should have won there.

we aren’t going to get to see whether or not he can get unlv going since he will have left there after his second year.

he will get all kinds of goodwill from the fans though, and that will buy him at least 3 years before anyone starts questioning anything he does.

Agree. Who's at the top of your board?
 

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What makes you think TJ would be a good hire? I have seen nothing from him that makes me think he would be any better than Prohm. UNLV is looking worse year 1 to year 2. Very Prohm-esque.
Agree. I think Pollard will have a tough time selling the fanbase on a new head coach coming off a losing season in a weak Mountain West Conference.
 

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TJ walked into a successful program with a generational player. He should have won there.

we aren’t going to get to see whether or not he can get unlv going since he will have left there after his second year.

he will get all kinds of goodwill from the fans though, and that will buy him at least 3 years before anyone starts questioning anything he does.

It will be interesting to see how much good will he gets from fans. He will get a lot of good will from the fans with power and influence. But I’m not sure if he will from average fans.

I’m obviously no fan of his with how 2015 was handled and that isn’t his fault. But I’ll get on board when he’s hired, I guess.
 

AllInForISU

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That's comically dumb.
TJ may or may not be great, but they aren't trending towards a 2 win season.
Prohm is his own category of legendarily bad coaching here. Nobody compares to what he's done.

If you are just going for "better than Prohm" sure TJ would probably fit the bill, the bar isn't high obviously. But if you want to go for an actual good hire, not a chance TJ is the guy right now.
 

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That's subjective.

UNLV is 114th in Offensive Efficiency per KenPom. 74th last year.

His recruiting rankings aren't terrible, but its much easier to recruit a kid to Vegas than it is Ames, IA.

I just don't see the X's and O's that get me excited.

TJ has already proven he can recruit to Ames and at a very high level.
 
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