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Is it possible to add two teams as football only members?

The Committee should make a statement asking Notre Dame and BYU to join the Big 12 since they just ruled that those two teams can never participate in the playoff. It's a shame that the Big 12, ND and BYU are no longer part of college football because none have a title game, a title game the B12 had for years and years that never seemed to be that important.
 

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The Committee should make a statement asking Notre Dame and BYU to join the Big 12 since they just ruled that those two teams can never participate in the playoff. It's a shame that the Big 12, ND and BYU are no longer part of college football because none have a title game, a title game the B12 had for years and years that never seemed to be that important.

Yep. Now that the first year has shown what a championship game does for you versus a triad of regular season games, time to get two more teams. Once the trend started, it will be hard to overcome. Every year it will be Will the one True Champion get in. Probably not. With the talent in the conference for the future, expect all B12 teams to have at least one loss every year. The BIG/Pac12/SEC is a different animal.
 

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Lets go all out. Let Notre Dame know that they will never make the playoff in the current environment unless they run the table. Let Florida State know that they would of been left out if they lost just 1 game. Let both know that they could overcome all that by joining the Big 12.
 

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Lets go all out. Let Notre Dame know that they will never make the playoff in the current environment unless they run the table. Let Florida State know that they would of been left out if they lost just 1 game. Let both know that they could overcome all that by joining the Big 12.

Plus we could offer to put ND in the same division as ISU. Along with KU. Basically offering them the North division title each year.
 

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I'd go with BYU and UConn. UConn in a North Division and BYU in the south.

Yeah, let's get another church school in BYU. Then we can go after ND again. More church. We could have two divisions. Church and Non Church.
 

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Who cares who they add, the worse the program the better. Two years ago the goal was to add FSU and Clemson, wow that would have made football easier for ISU. At this point, just find to crap programs to get the conference to 12 and have a champ game. Tell these lesser schools, you will get less money and like it - its better to be part of our conference, make less than be in the CUSA or some other non P5 conference.

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Big 12 Southwest
Texas
Baylor
Houston
TCU
Texas Tech
Colorado State
BYU

Big 12 Northeast
Oklahoma
Oklahoma State
Kansas State
Kansas
Iowa State
West Virginia
Cincinnati
 

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And this is why you can pay for two more schools:

With the top 4 CFP system, though, the chances are vastly increased that every conference championship game will have national title implications every year, which in turn drives up the value of those games significantly. (The SEC, ACC, Big Ten and Pac-12 conference championship games all drew great overnight ratings over the weekend, even with the Ohio State-Wisconsin game being completely non-competitive after about the first half-hour.) If consolation Rose Bowl and Sugar Bowl games are worth $40 million each to their participating conferences, then the conference championship games are arguably worth even more in this new system. The conference championship games are de facto playoff games that can be guaranteed every single year and easily monetized with 100% of the revenue controlled by the applicable conference. Sure, a league like the Big 12 could regularly end up having an important game on the last weekend of the season, such as the Baylor-Kansas State game this past Saturday, but the Big 12 can’t sell that matchup ahead of time for $50 million or more in the way that the Big Ten will likely be able to do with its conference championship game when it enters into a new TV contract in a couple of years
 

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And this is why you can pay for two more schools:

Ya, I thought that post by Frank the Tank was well done, and that paragraph in particular.

After reading the whole article, my first choice would be to 1) get a waiver from the "not for profit NCAA" to play a championship game w/ 10 teams in a conference, or 2) add two teams that the 10 presidents find acceptable for being associated with, and that might possibly be wins for the likes of the Cyclones... or at least expand into fertile recruiting grounds.
 

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I know it's a considered a stupid move finically and would never happen, but I wish we'd take 6 rejects and add all except two of: BYU, Cincinnati, SDSU, CSU, Memphis, USF, UCF and UCONN. Because I'm a weak man with too much empathy (for those schools) who also wants some bad football teams in the mix and a bigger conference that can survive the possible departure of UT and OU when the GOR expires. Seriously, I'd be happy with those teams. And these 6 teams would help dilute schedule strengths just enough that it would actually help the Big 12 get a playoff team. Just like how Ohio State destroyed their weak conference and got in. It's actually amazing Baylor and TCU both ended up with only one loss--how many more years will OU, OSU, WVU and UT have down years like this?

Then to hell with divisions, protect one (or two) rivalry game every year and do another 8 random conference games (9 conference total). Top two teams face off in the championship game.

EDIT: Here's a crazy idea for scheduling. Develop a "deferred acceptance algorithm" that allows each school to rank their match up preferences each year. The algorithm finds matches while accounting for strength of schedule and previous year's match ups. I don't know, something with science :D Read this article: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/07/n...ork-city-high-school-application-process.html
 
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If you are going to go as far West as Boise or Provo then you may as well add SDSU to the mix. They add just as much as BSU and BYU, and certainly more than a CSU or UNM, IMO
 

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And this is why you can pay for two more schools:


The conference championship game is a huge factor for money. If you can get 30-50 million for one game you do it. I'm assuming that the TV contracts also have something built in for more conference games. If two teams are added that is 18 more conference games a year to televise. I'm sure that would result in an overall contract increase. One would think those two factors would be enough to offset the cost for two more teams. This is just factoring football. I know basketball doesn't make as much money but you would think bringing in schools like Cincy and Memphis would be a benefit for bball.

But in all honesty I have no clue what any of the contracts say and could be way off.
 

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BYU and UCF seem to the be the no-brainers imo. The real snag with those choices is how to do the divisions.
One option would be the 4 Texas teams + 2 OK teams in one division but then the remaining division is a big hodge-podge. I think it'd make more sense to have one division with the Texas teams and another with the 2 OK teams (this could put Texas vs OK in the champ game which is ideal) UCF would go to the Texas division but what about the last team? Someone that didn't belong could end up there.