F the refs and F Baylor

CyBobby

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How about just a f’n straight up game? Why should the Iowa states of the world always have to be double digits better just to come out with a win? What the f did Baylor do to deserve such preferential treatment? Big 12 seems to think they are spinning the wheels for the betterment of the conference, all they are really doing is contributing to the eventual collapse. No reason for schools like isu to stick around the moment they have a viable option.
I AGREE F THE BIG 12 AND THEIR TEXAS CENTRIC BULLSH**T
 

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Yeah, there was a lot of no calls on Baylor that were way worse than a couple of the ones they called on ISU. I have never seen a defense player called for an illegal block.
It is a new point of emphasis to protect linemen, basically you can’t take out their legs. But Johnson didn’t take out the guys legs, he hit him above the waist and the dude went over the top of him. It was a terrible ******* call.
 

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Baylor's in Texas. All the Texas schools in the Big XII get a degree of protection by the conference refs. And especially so when the crew is Texas-centric to begin with.
The officials from Texas hate traveling to a place like Ames. It’s not convenient for them to get to and we play a “very inferior type of football” than they do. Everything’s bigger in Texas - egos in particular. Texans think they own the game of football and the rest of us should just be happy they let us play against them. We’re just hicks from a small state…hilariously hypocritical because people from Texas are just as much of hicks if not more, but they’d never accept that. Baylor is an incredibly elitist school of people from Texas. This is why we hate them so much.
 

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This will turn in we lost this game because of the refs but if you watched the game Baylor completely out played us.

They outgained ISU by ELEVEN yards and had about 70 yards on plays that came after ISU blew them up on a third down only to have refs make up some nonsense penalty that didn't exist.

It was an incredibly close game outside the 14 spotted points. ISU lost control of it in the third but Baylor really didn't accomplish much of anything in the first half. They choked on their big 3rd downs and got bailed out by nonsense.
 

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Two things can be true:
  • Baylor outclassed us on a number of occasions today and took full advantage of their opportunities to win. We did not.
  • The officiating, especially in the first half, completely affected the momentum of the game in favor of Baylor and those drive-extending (and absolutely ridiculous) calls gave them opportunities they shouldn’t have had. If the game was called better, in this case it could have actually changed the outcome.
 

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It is a new point of emphasis to protect linemen, basically you can’t take out their legs. But Johnson didn’t take out the guys legs, he hit him above the waist and the dude went over the top of him. It was a terrible ******* call.

The guys on Baylor Sic 'Em network are talking about how ISU got screwed on that but most of our own fans are too macho to see it objectively.
 

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Maybe the first step towards greatness is to make ourselves a f’n nuisance to the conference untile we get a fair shake? Do you think Ohio State, Alabama, etc would sit on their hands if they got screwed the way we regularly do? This mind set of “we have to shut up and overcome “ is mind boggling. Not really a sign of greatness if you ask me.

I'm not saying to copy Fran of all people, but it was after a typical screw job @UNI that the basketball home and homes ended. He said "**** this, we're not even making money this way" and I didn't blame him.
 

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Honestly if Iowa State got bailed out on 3 failed 3rd down conversions like Baylor did on BS calls they may have won by a score or two instead of losing.

The worst non-called targeting of the game would've been exactly that kind of ISU drive extender...and it actually was helmet to helmet leading with helmet.

45 yards on 3 penalties isn't just 45 yards. It's extending a drive three times because they were all third downs where Baylor got stuffed and it was ejecting a starter for the entire game. I mean the 45 yards sucks too when none of them were anything real, but it's all the snaps our D had to stay on the field after they earned getting off the field.
 

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How about just a f’n straight up game? Why should the Iowa states of the world always have to be double digits better just to come out with a win? What the f did Baylor do to deserve such preferential treatment? Big 12 seems to think they are spinning the wheels for the betterment of the conference, all they are really doing is contributing to the eventual collapse. No reason for schools like isu to stick around the moment they have a viable option.

The refs didn’t call a good game, I’ll give you that. But to place most of the blame on them for the outcome of the game exclusively is really dumb. We got outplayed, plain and simple.
 

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The refs didn’t call a good game, I’ll give you that. But to place most of the blame on them for the outcome of the game exclusively is really dumb. We got outplayed, plain and simple.
They set the momentum right away. We had problems in the third quarter but it’s a completely different game with competent officiating.
 

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They outgained ISU by ELEVEN yards and had about 70 yards on plays that came after ISU blew them up on a third down only to have refs make up some nonsense penalty that didn't exist.

It was an incredibly close game outside the 14 spotted points. ISU lost control of it in the third but Baylor really didn't accomplish much of anything in the first half. They choked on their big 3rd downs and got bailed out by nonsense.
But that TO margin is worth a lot of yards. If a game is close in yards and you lose the TO battle by 2 or more you are almost never winning.
 

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But that TO margin is worth a lot of yards. If a game is close in yards and you lose the TO battle by 2 or more you are almost never winning.

Maybe a wash on the fake yards Baylor got after multiple failed 3rd downs.

All I’m saying it was by no means a blowout. ISU won the physical battle for 2 or 3 quarters.
 

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They set the momentum right away. We had problems in the third quarter but it’s a completely different game with competent officiating.
And despite that momentum, ISU had the ball to start the 2nd half down 3. ISU had overcome in the first half and a chance to get the momentum. But they didn’t do it. Baylor made the big plays in the second half, and ISU continued with the sloppiness and TOs.
 

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And despite that momentum, ISU had the ball to start the 2nd half down 3. ISU had overcome in the first half and a chance to get the momentum. But they didn’t do it. Baylor made the big plays in the second half, and ISU continued with the sloppiness and TOs.
We would have been up solidly if it had been called fair. The fact that it all happened so earlier makes the what ifs impossible.
 

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We would have been up solidly if it had been called fair. The fact that it all happened so earlier makes the what ifs impossible.
That’s true, but people keep taking about the calls as if it created serious momentum, but ISU had essentially seized it back or balanced it. Then got sloppy.

ISU did a great job overcoming in the first half. But they did not execute in the second half.
 
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It is what it is. We got screwed but we had opportunities to win. Need to play better and it starts with the OC.
 

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To me the worst things about the bad calls aren't the yards, automatic first downs, or even Freyler getting ejected, it's the mental aspect of it. The defense has to adjust how they play when they make those calls, whether it's having to think about tackling form rather than relying on their instincts/practice, taking different angles, tackling higher etc. and as good as Heacock is, you can't really scheme around that.