First time I remember Campbell really pissed (not at refs)
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I proved your point by showing how wrong you are? In multiple dimensions? That’s an...interesting position.
Either that, or you struggle with reading comprehension. One of the two.
You’re losing credibility fast. Might want to stop soon.
I'm not sure if he laid into him, but iirc Park at the least wouldn't listen to him as his meltdown was taking place.
He's gotten into players though.
And for just generally kind of being squirrelly, he was always singing/dancing to the stadium music, talking trash to the other team. Just seemed like the kind of kid the coaches like but that also kind of gets on their nerves, the kind of player that needs reminders to focus lol
Well, sad as it is, last years' team finishing 7-6, in the #2 SOS conference in the country, with 9 conference, round robin games with a non-con vs. ranked Iowa and Bowl game vs. ND makes it one of the better teams in ISU history.
It's true that breaking offensive records is probably a bit overrated due to the fact that ISU has historically been awful, and it is WAY easier to score now than it ever has been due to rules, enforcement of rules, and pretty much everyone playing with tempo. Still, some people are getting a little crazy with the Manning hate.
Are you for real? When have we ever had better talent than we had last year and the year before, which is really what the OP was talking about? Name one year we had better talent.
This is a team that has good talent by ISU standards. But reality is Purdy is neck in neck with Brewer for being the 9th best graded QB in the Big 12 per PFF , the best OL has been out all season, arguably second best OL now out, most experienced, if not best WR out most of the season, and a WR group that quite frankly has been largely dominated in man coverage all year. The OL has been better than expected, particularly with the injuries, but they still struggle in pass protection.
ISU is very talented at TE and RB. Has a talent in Purdy, but we've got WRs that can't beat man coverage and an OL that struggles in pass protection.
I remember reading somewhere where ratings are up, but not way up. Therefore if these last two years are the most talented then development must be a strength because the performance seems to be at a level seldom reached by ISU. I believe to be a 9-10 win team consistently then we need to get 3-4 four star guys each year. You can dress up a good looking pig, but it never will be great looking. You can run multiple formations, run a new defense etc etc, but it is much easier to line up a bunch of four stars and say lets go without having to add all the dressing.
Just rambling, but my point is our margin is small against most EVERYONE we play.
Just rambling, but my point is our margin is small against most EVERYONE we play.
Some of yall have some REALLY high expectations for this coaching staff. Blaming them for not winning more games "with all the talent we have" you've got to be kidding me. For one, who do you think brought these guys in? For another, imagine what we could do with ONE OF Texas', Oklahoma or OSU's recruiting classes. JUST ONE. Newsflash: that level of talent doesn't want to play here. HS kids that are 5 and 4 stars don't want to be here. Campbell has to win with what he gets.
And Manning turned that into one of the best offenses in the big 12. Arguably the second best. Is he perfect? Hell no. I'm pissed off from time to time too. But I sit and watch these games with plenty of people ******** about every 3rd down stop or interception thrown. I get it, it can be better, but lets not act like Manning is taking the Clemson roster and turning it into a turd.
Realize the rest of the country still sees Iowa State as a bunch of nobodies that our staff has worked miracles with. A rational viewer would see the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
And Manning turned that into one of the best offenses in the big 12. Arguably the second best. Is he perfect? Hell no. I'm pissed off from time to time too. But I sit and watch these games with plenty of people ******** about every 3rd down stop or interception thrown. I get it, it can be better, but lets not act like Manning is taking the Clemson roster and turning it into a turd.
Realize the rest of the country still sees Iowa State as a bunch of nobodies that our staff has worked miracles with. A rational viewer would see the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
This x1000. That's why every year Campbell is getting calls from other ADs to take a new job because Campbell is winning at a program that really has all the odds against us winning. No long-term success, smaller recruiting base in Iowa, etc. We have improved our talent since Campbell has gotten here but we are far from Bama, Clemson, and even OU and Texas talent even though we have been competitive against them. For the people expecting perfection every single week you are off your rockers and must have just become a fan since 2017 because pre-2016 we all would be salivating at the thought of being 5-2 and controlling our destiny to a Big 12 title game in November. Enjoy the ride! We are 5-2 and yet to see the ceiling of this team!
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For every fan that's a little upset in regards to anything with our football program.. Google "Big 12 Football Standings" and I guarantee you it'll provide a little bit of perspective.
It’s like saying that this is the best defensive line we “ever” had. There are at least two groups that make that a debate.
If I were to pick a year we had “better talent” on offense, it would be a team-wide thing. The ‘78 team, for example, might not have had quite as good of talent as Brock and Breece at their positions, but had better talent on the OL. There were other Seventies teams with good offensive skill talent, like Ike Harris, Keith Krepfle and Luther Blue.
Then there were years in the Eighties that had much better talent, NFL talent on the OL (from Karl Nelson through Keith Sims), and I’d have to go through and pick out the years where guys like Dwayne Crutchfield, David Archer, Tracy Henderson, Mike Busch and Blaise Bryant were surrounded by other players.
That would require me having the lineups for those years, though. Otherwise I’d cheerfully go through and do a player by player matchup.
And that doesn’t count years like when a Ben Bruns-led line was playing ahead of some pretty good skill players, like Sage Rosenfels, Ennis Haywood, J.J. Moses and Mike Banks. The skill players may not have been quite the talent level as Purdy, Hall and Kolar, but the offensive line talent made up for it.
Not my fault some folks don’t know their Cyclone history.
One could argue we very recently had as much or more talent when we were trotting out a skill player roster of Montgomery, Lazard, Butler and Jones, among others.
I think we have fairly average offensive talent overall. As other posters have said our great RB and TE groups are balanced out with our weakest WR group in some time and an OL that is doing as much as we could hope for, but is still young and has been wracked with injuries.
This crap about Manning must be coming from some of the same people that complained about Dan McCarney. I don’t need stats to tell me that we’re much better offensively and defensively than we were 5 years ago. Most of the time when a play fails it has to do with execution, Not the call.
I know. We would have be 5-1 to start conference play or something crazy like that in order to shut them up.
