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MUQuantrill

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As an objective college basketball fan I have no problem with the no call on the "charge". I think there are waaaayyyy to many charges called in the game nowadays, and I am of the opinion that in the final seconds you let the players decide the game unless it is an egregious foul (which this was not).

However, the loose ball foul on Niang was a load of horse manure. I will agree with you there. Although, would you rather have a player on the FT line with a 47 percent chance of tying the game up and forcing OT, or leave a wide open 3 to a player with a 29 percent chance of taking the lead and winning the game?


I didn't have a problem with them not calling a charge, or a blocking foul, on that play either, but what I did have a problem with was the call the ref made right after that, saying that the Cyclone player had a reach foul when he was trying to get the ball. The kU player was out of bounds had part of the ball and the Cyclone player was reaching for the ball. Calling a foul on that was reprehensible.
 

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I didn't have a problem with them not calling a charge, or a blocking foul, on that play either, but what I did have a problem with was the call the ref made right after that, saying that the Cyclone player had a reach foul when he was trying to get the ball. The kU player was out of bounds had part of the ball and the Cyclone player was reaching for the ball. Calling a foul on that was reprehensible.

I agree the foul on Niang was garbage. Although I am fairly certain Elijah Johnson was never out of bounds at any point.
 

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The proof that it was obscene is there was no call at all. He took Georges out of the play, at least call the block. No call is such a fail. Then call the hold.
 

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Amen! This actually hurts KU--they won't get this kind of help from the Zebras come the Big Dance. What will they do when they don't get the calls?

Goto the Final Four? Or probably at least the Elite Eight which KU has done 5 out of 9 tries with Bill Self.
 

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ISU 87 KU 82 29.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 90 KU 90 4.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 96 KU 108 F/OT

KU outscored ISU 26 to 9 in the last 5:29 of regulation/overtime.

And Iowa State was, according to the title of this thread "flat out cheated".

Right. Sure. Uh huh.

Have fun complaining about the refs. In the meantime KU will collect their 9th consecutive conference championship in just under two weeks.
 

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ISU 87 KU 82 29.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 90 KU 90 4.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 96 KU 108 F/OT

KU outscored ISU 26 to 9 in the last 5:29 of regulation/overtime.

And Iowa State was, according to the title of this thread "flat out cheated".

Right. Sure. Uh huh.

Have fun complaining about the refs. In the meantime KU will collect their 9th consecutive conference championship in just under two weeks.

Have fun losing in the second round of the tournament.

If that call at teh end had gone against you. You guys would be driving to Dallas in the blizzard as we speak ready to storm the place with pitchforks. It was a crap call. Of course, since Kansas gets the crap calls all of the time, you don't understand it.
 

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ISU 90 KU 88 with 6 seconds left in the game. ISU drew a blatant charge but the refs fail to blow their whistles and then afterwards call a foul on the guy who the charging player is laying on top of. Make the obvious call and ISU has the ball with 6 seconds left and a 2 point lead.

Yup, sounds rather curious to me.

Still skeptical, go visit any other site that isn't ISU or KU centered. Practically every sports fan around the nation is calling that ending ********.
 

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ISU 90 KU 88 with 6 seconds left in the game. ISU drew a blatant charge but the refs fail to blow their whistles and then afterwards call a foul on the guy who the charging player is laying on top of. Make the obvious call and ISU has the ball with 6 seconds left and a 2 point lead.

Yup, sounds rather curious to me.

Still skeptical, go visit any other site that isn't ISU or KU centered. Practically every sports fan around the nation is calling that ending ********.

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ISU 90 KU 88 with 6 seconds left in the game. ISU drew a blatant charge but the refs fail to blow their whistles and then afterwards call a foul on the guy who the charging player is laying on top of. Make the obvious call and ISU has the ball with 6 seconds left and a 2 point lead.

Yup, sounds rather curious to me.

Still skeptical, go visit any other site that isn't ISU or KU centered. Practically every sports fan around the nation is calling that ending ********.

Not just sports fans. Sports analysts and journalists. Andy Katz isn't exactly a KU hater and he thought it was a ******** call.

I get that Kansas fans are jerks like their coach and their players, so they don't understand simple things.
 

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I'm really starting to hate this season...not the players, but the season. So many heartbreakers by bad luck late shots going in by the opposing team or refs being completely incompetent.
 

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ISU 87 KU 82 29.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 90 KU 90 4.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 96 KU 108 F/OT

KU outscored ISU 26 to 9 in the last 5:29 of regulation/overtime.

And Iowa State was, according to the title of this thread "flat out cheated".

Right. Sure. Uh huh.

Have fun complaining about the refs. In the meantime KU will collect their 9th consecutive conference championship in just under two weeks.

Merry Christmas.
 

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As an objective college basketball fan I have no problem with the no call on the "charge". I think there are waaaayyyy to many charges called in the game nowadays, and I am of the opinion that in the final seconds you let the players decide the game unless it is an egregious foul (which this was not).

However, the loose ball foul on Niang was a load of horse manure. I will agree with you there. Although, would you rather have a player on the FT line with a 47 percent chance of tying the game up and forcing OT, or leave a wide open 3 to a player with a 29 percent chance of taking the lead and winning the game?
Considering the KU player on the kick out missed the 3 to go ahead, I'd take the play. Also at least that way there is consistency with the no calls.
 

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kansas fans know they were given that game last night, but not one of them will ever, ever admit it. They will spout off 'stats' that show that everything was normal and the refs called the game evenly, because of course, they were screwed too at some point early in the game. They do not account for the fact that the calls at the end of the game are what matters.

This is a bizarre fantasy world that these beaker fans live in and they do not think anything is abnormal about it. They feel it is their Naismith given right to be given all the calls at the end of the game. They know that the Big 12 refs will save them (they couldn't save them at TCU because the hawks were too far behind). You have to understand these people, they don't care if they win by 'cheating'. They don't care if their guy dunks the ball at the end of the game unnecessarily, because all he has to do is apologize. They also deep down know that even though the refs in the Big 12 will do anything they can to help them win the conference, no matter how obvious it is and even if it is on national TV, that it will not help them in the national tournament, hence the numerous early exits. But as long as they are helped in getting that #1 seed, they will luck out every once in a while and have that easy shot to the final four.
 
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ISU 87 KU 82 29.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 90 KU 90 4.9 seconds remaining in regulation.
ISU 96 KU 108 F/OT

KU outscored ISU 26 to 9 in the last 5:29 of regulation/overtime.

And Iowa State was, according to the title of this thread "flat out cheated".

Right. Sure. Uh huh.

Have fun complaining about the refs. In the meantime KU will collect their 9th consecutive conference championship in just under two weeks.
Go eat a bullet.
 

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I normally root for other Big XII teams in the tourney but I would love to see KU get a 1 seed and be the first 1 seed to lose in the opening game. I realize they don't even have to pay the refs anymore but Withey should have been out of the game in regulation and the refs not calling an obvious charging call and then the foul on Niang when a KU player is laying on top of him - unreal...

I hope KU loses their next three. Really, who would want them to be a one seed. They do not deserve it.
 

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Goto the Final Four? Or probably at least the Elite Eight which KU has done 5 out of 9 tries with Bill Self.
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