Rock Chalk Cheater!!
Bring in the painters- time to change it from "Fear the Phog" to "FEAR the FBI".
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Rock Chalk Cheater!!
Bring in the painters- time to change it from "Fear the Phog" to "FEAR the FBI".
The athletic department is simply following the FBI lead. The FBI is charging people with committing fraud against the university, which means that by definition, KU was the "victim" of fraud. The whole notion of fraud against the schools is stupid and this should not be resulting in federal criminal cases but that is what the FBI has chosen to do. Do use of the word victim is accurate in this context.Bill is just following the university's talking points. It's the language used by their officials before Self himself spoke on the matter. Bill's just a victim.
“Earlier today, we learned that the University of Kansas is named as a victim in a federal indictment,” the statement from Joe Monaco, KU’s director of strategic communications, read. “The indictment does not suggest any wrongdoing by the university, its coaches or its staff. We will cooperate fully with investigators in this matter. Because this is an active investigation, it is not appropriate for us to comment further at this time.” LJW
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article208552144.html
"The kids and I never took money from anyone. This is bigger than basketball. These kids and I have sacrificed so much because we know this could change our countries and nation. Anyone that knows me will know that coach Larry Brown is the only person that I take advice from because who he means to me and the kids. "Silvio's mom"
Can't think of a better person for them to be taking advice from.
"The kids and I never took money from anyone. This is bigger than basketball. These kids and I have sacrificed so much because we know this could change our countries and nation. Anyone that knows me will know that coach Larry Brown is the only person that I take advice from because who he means to me and the kids. "Silvio's mom"
Can't think of a better person for them to be taking advice from.
As much as it pains me I think Randomfan is right. It's not a difficult process to sift your way through.
1) Adidas pays high profile basketball school Kansas to wear their gear.
2) Kansas recruits high level, possibly NBA bound player.
3) Adidas takes notes of Kansas recruiting high level possibly NBA bound player and realizes said player going to an Adidas school would likely enhance chances of said player staying with Adidas as a pro.
4) Adidas lines the pockets of said player, but makes sure nothing is spoken to KU.
5) KU plays no active role in the lining of the pocket, and while I'm sure they know what's going on have nothing implicating them.
1) Adidas pays high profile basketball school Kansas to wear their gear.
2) Kansas recruits high level, possibly NBA bound player.
3) Adidas takes notes of Kansas recruiting high level possibly NBA bound player and realizes said player going to an Adidas school would likely enhance chances of said player staying with Adidas as a pro.
4) Adidas lines the pockets of said player, but makes sure nothing is spoken to KU.
5) KU plays no active role in the lining of the pocket, and while I'm sure they know what's going on have nothing implicating them.
lol. At least get it right if you are going to make a joke. "..Beware of 'the Phog'"
This would suggest that Ku, its coaches and program generally didn't promote and cultivate an atmosphere that allowed this to happen during Self's reign, which is patently false. Ku is tied contractually to the funder, Adidas. Ku has actively developed relationships with AAU coaches and others that provide the infrastructure for this to happen. Ku is guilty by association of a complete ethics failure if not a violation of law. This has been going on for a long, long time. We'll see if it ends abruptly.
The only people that will use the word "victim" to describe what's really going on with Bill and Co.'s pay-to play are KU fans. The rest of us will use a more realistic word-- "complicit".
Who said it was painted on the wall?
I know you guys are a little spooked today so I'll give you a fail pass.
Why do you even pretend to be a Cyclone fan? Troll is transparent.
AAU are dirty cheaters.
Adidas is dirty cheater.
KU is dirty cheater.
Any defense that it has not been proven (YET) does not change facts for knowledgeable MBB fans.
CycloneErik
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Absolutely, and wow. Good defense by them folks.
Larry Brown isn't even clean after a shower.
Boy you are taking this hard. Always knew you were a KU homer but now its 100% blatant.
Exactly right. Every school in the nation recruits through AAU programs. Every school hires assistant coaches due largely to their relationships with certain AAU coaches in certain key regions. Every school has a relationship and a contract with a shoe/apparel company. Anyone who thinks that this identical issue is not happening at Nike schools all over America is a fool.
Sorry for the late response; I wanted to wait until I was at home and could use a keyboard instead of my phone. This website is rather uncooperative when trying to post via mobile.
Self is many things but he isn't stupid. Kansas recruits in a pool of players who are very desirable to runners and shoe companies. When you work in an environment where questionable things go on outside of your realm of control, you simply have to work to insulate yourself from them as best you can. Coaches have zero control over whether or not future players get approached by runners or shoe companies. Kansas went so far as to build a new multi million collar dorm building with controlled access to the inside because there were runners, shoe guys and professional autograph seekers getting into the old Jayhawker Towers trying to get at the players.
Do I think that Kansas coaches know that runners and shoe companies are trying to get money to players? Yes.
Do I think that they know when specific players are involved with runners and shoe companies? No.
Do I think that they go out of their way to tell recruits that they are targeting the consequences of making deals with runners and shoe companies prior to coming to school? Yes.
Do I think that some players ignore that advice and go ahead and take money from runners and shoe companies prior to going to Kansas or many other schools? Yes.
As for the specific cases involved right now, I do not know enough details about both sides of the cases to form an opinion as to whether or not the allegations are true? No. I know that we're talking about Preston and DeSousa. Was the money that went to Preston (if it happened) simply funding of an Adidas AAU program that was used entirely for what it was intended? Maybe. Was it used for personal reasons? Maybe. I have have no idea but since we held him out of all games, I don't really care.
As for DeSousa, both he and his guardians claim that they did not receive any money so they will have their opportunity to back up those claims when the ncaa comes calling. Either they will be able to or they won't. If they did take the money them I am fine with whatever penalty the ncaa hands down. If that includes losing The Streak and taking down a Final Four banner, it would stink but so be it. KU basketball is more to me than some streak and a banner and those punishments would not change my enjoyment of KU hoops at all.
